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Melodies of Memory and the Rhythms of Resilience: An Euphonic Journey with Fab and Big Sexy Sean Hector

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Melodies of Memory and the Rhythms of Resilience: An Euphonic Journey with Fab and Big Sexy Sean Hector
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Melodies of Memory and the Rhythms of Resilience: An Euphonic Journey with Fab and Big Sexy Sean Hector
Feb 10, 2024
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Laughter echoed through the studio as Fab and Big Sexy Sean Hector graced us with their presence, turning an otherwise ordinary episode into one of unexpected joy and a walk down memory lane. The spontaneous call-in that led to their arrival set the stage for a delightful journey through the power of love and the magic of music. We shared moments of genuine connection over tales of high school encounters that turned into lifelong partnerships, and we found common ground in the universal language of music, with personal anecdotes that included both the Isley Brothers and Kiss.

When conversations swung from the heartstrings to the bass strings, Sean's eclectic musical voyage took center stage. His hands have danced across frets for church praise teams, mass choirs, and bands like the G Funk Squad, while the rest of us nodded along, contemplating the bitter yet bonding ritual of the Malort Challenge. Each story and laugh shared was a reminder of the strength and resilience that music and companionship bring to our lives, weaving a tapestry of shared experiences that resonate with anyone who's ever found solace in a song or comfort in a companion's arms.

As the episode unfurled, we delved into the realities of life's hardships and the triumphs that follow. Engrossing tales of medical nightmares turned victories highlighted the sheer determination of the human spirit. We rounded off with behind-the-scenes glimpses into studio sessions and collaborations with icons like LL Cool J and Montell Jordan, celebrating a career marked by legendary encounters and unexpected opportunities. It's an episode that's sure to inspire, entertain, and, most importantly, connect us through the stories that define us and the laughter that unites us. #tellyourstory #familymatters #thebenmaynardprogram #aoneinamillionyou #fabandbigsexyseanhector

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Laughter echoed through the studio as Fab and Big Sexy Sean Hector graced us with their presence, turning an otherwise ordinary episode into one of unexpected joy and a walk down memory lane. The spontaneous call-in that led to their arrival set the stage for a delightful journey through the power of love and the magic of music. We shared moments of genuine connection over tales of high school encounters that turned into lifelong partnerships, and we found common ground in the universal language of music, with personal anecdotes that included both the Isley Brothers and Kiss.

When conversations swung from the heartstrings to the bass strings, Sean's eclectic musical voyage took center stage. His hands have danced across frets for church praise teams, mass choirs, and bands like the G Funk Squad, while the rest of us nodded along, contemplating the bitter yet bonding ritual of the Malort Challenge. Each story and laugh shared was a reminder of the strength and resilience that music and companionship bring to our lives, weaving a tapestry of shared experiences that resonate with anyone who's ever found solace in a song or comfort in a companion's arms.

As the episode unfurled, we delved into the realities of life's hardships and the triumphs that follow. Engrossing tales of medical nightmares turned victories highlighted the sheer determination of the human spirit. We rounded off with behind-the-scenes glimpses into studio sessions and collaborations with icons like LL Cool J and Montell Jordan, celebrating a career marked by legendary encounters and unexpected opportunities. It's an episode that's sure to inspire, entertain, and, most importantly, connect us through the stories that define us and the laughter that unites us. #tellyourstory #familymatters #thebenmaynardprogram #aoneinamillionyou #fabandbigsexyseanhector

Thanks for listening! Follow me on Instagram: benmaynardprogram
and subscribe to my YouTube channel: THE BEN MAYNARD PROGRAM
I also welcome your comments. email: pl8blocker@aol.com

Speaker 1:

Hey there, everyone, welcome into the Ben Maynard program. Thanks for being here. Before we get started, a little bit of housekeeping to take care of. As you know, this show is available on multiple podcast platforms like Apple Podcasts, amazon Music and Spotify, or you can just simply search the Ben Maynard program and you'll have several options to choose from. Just pick your option and there you go. If you can't resist this right here or this right here and you're watching on YouTube, please subscribe to the channel, give me a thumbs up and leave a comment. I love comments. You know I love comments. Okay, I like to read those Also. Last but not least, follow me on Instagram, simply Ben Maynard program. So there are plenty of ways to take in this show for your dancing and listening pleasure. And with that, I'll quickly recap the last episode and introduce these two to you.

Speaker 1:

How's that Last episode? That was Friday Night Live, part 2. Yes, and that actually brings us to where we are today with today's show, friday Night Live. The first time around was fun, it was a good time. We had a whole two views. So what do you do when things don't go as you want them to? You do it again, yes, so last Friday we had our second Friday Night Live and got up to, I think, a whole five viewers. Yes, we more than doubled the audience from the previous week. It was a ton of fun. And I put out a phone call to my niece, lisa, which you all heard, which brings us to today, because she sent a text message, if I'm right. Yes, she sent a text message to this beautiful lady right over here across the table. And what did she do? She called into the program, called in, did what she was supposed to do. So it is my pleasure to introduce to everyone out here Fab and big sexy Sean Hector. I welcome you to the program. Thank you so much for being here.

Speaker 1:

It's great, it's great. This is going to be a ton of fun, but I have to start with you, fab. Okay, because because he's first. Well, she called in last week, okay. So how did that exactly work? Lisa sent a text message and then what?

Speaker 3:

Lisa sent the text and she said I want you to call in all this number. Call into the show right now. She said if you call in, my uncle has to take a shot. Okay, I called in and I had no idea what to say. Yeah, I was like hey, I'm not calling to borrow money or anything.

Speaker 1:

No, that's right, that's right. You did say I'm not calling to borrow money and it was funny. I wasn't sure. I honest, I was crossing my fingers and I was hoping it was just some random person. And it was really in theory, because I don't. I didn't know you, I didn't meet you really until over the phone last week, but I was thinking, gosh, okay, it's got to be some person out there that doesn't know who. I am never seen. The show popped up, whatever, and they're calling yes, thumbs up. And and it happened to be you, fab, and it was great, it was. We had, we had a fun conversation and then, and then Lisa well, I disconnected from Lisa because I was on the phone with her and it's either because I don't know how to use my phone or the conference call function wasn't on. I don't know people. You know I'm not that great with this kind of stuff, so I'm not the technical whiz, but but then we disconnected and Lisa called back and then she conferences all, all in the three of us and it was just a lot of fun and it was.

Speaker 1:

It was great to kind of kind of get to share with you sort of a little bit about the background of this show and what it's all about and the bottom line, as, as I say, a lot of episodes, especially if there's a guest in studio. This show is about telling your story, and that's that's what I want to do. I just talk about your story, the two of you and and how that all came to be, and let's just have, let's just have a good time. Oh, by the way, people yeah, my water's blocking it. You see this right there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's it. That's the nasty stuff. That is our malort. It's been sitting here in studio for for the entire week. Haven't touched it. And here's my Captain Kirk shot glass from last week as well. I haven't rinsed it out or anything, so it just makes for better stuff. Whenever you have to, you know you have to punish yourself. So we kind of we kind of talked a little bit, but I want the audience to know about the two of you, big sexy, and you've been together. You've been together now for 25 years roughly 25, 22 and some change.

Speaker 2:

I have to do math. Okay, 25 it is, it sounds like it.

Speaker 1:

So, so, let's go back to the very beginning. Okay, cause you, because earlier you had mentioned that when I asked how long the two of you have been together and you said, well, this time. And you said you know there was two times. So let's go all the way back to the very beginning.

Speaker 2:

Okay, very beginning happened when we were in high school.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Right, Well, you were. We were both enrolled. I went.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, I see how I see where this is all going.

Speaker 2:

A friend of mine introduced me to her.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And, and we kind of hit it off.

Speaker 3:

He introduced us and I walked up the driveway into his face. I didn't get there, yeah, he was taken too long and I told him you're going to be my man. And he looked at me, looked down at me and he was like uh uh snap.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I didn't have a problem with it. But I mean you, she was kind of straightforward and I was like I'm not going to give in that easy and you're, even though, even though I already did, right, you're 17 years old for crying out loud, right and this and this beautiful, beautiful chick comes to say you're going to be my man. I'm like in my mind, I'm like okay but you know I got to put on that friend. No, you're not, no, you're not.

Speaker 1:

You got to play the tough guy, play the role, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that was the first time and, um, after a few months we just grew apart. There was no break up, there was never any arguments, never, uh, any heated discussions or anything. We just grew apart.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we're going to play with them, oh man.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, I was into that.

Speaker 1:

Bruce Lee fan right, oh man.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I was like I'm going to ask home made some homemade note. That's pretty good, that was pretty good, yeah, and um, I think I um the window. Yes, Okay, I'll tell you about the window. So, um, there was a window on the garage at my house. The garage door no it was a window, it wasn't a door. There wasn't a window on the door. So, um, I think you might need to take it from me. I don't remember.

Speaker 3:

So, there was a side door on the garage. They had four little windows on the garage door on the side of the house.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

The door is still there today.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this is the door. It was a window.

Speaker 3:

No, Somebody said I bet you I could punch a hole in there faster than you can Faster.

Speaker 1:

Faster huh.

Speaker 3:

Somebody else said no, you can't.

Speaker 2:

I have a challenge, so I went first.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I still have a tiny little cut right here. My hand went through it and it just did a little nick.

Speaker 2:

No nick.

Speaker 3:

Somebody else. It was then their turn.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, I'm like I'm going to. Yeah, oh man, I sized it up and you know I'll just like, come through theater, man. I put my fist through that glass and I was like, if you're first, I'm like, you know, I didn't know. Like, yeah, yeah, how about that? Yeah, how about that. Until I looked down and my entire, my two middle fingers had been cut to the bone and I'm dripping blood all over the ground.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and then, he hides it from me. He's like I'll be right back. Yeah, I told her. I told her.

Speaker 1:

Because he's tough man. Because he's tough, he's a tough guy. Big sexy Can't show, I can't. Okay, hold on, big sexy. How many stitches did we take on this?

Speaker 2:

one, maybe 10, five in each finger? Yeah, five in each finger.

Speaker 3:

How many did I take?

Speaker 2:

She had a bad date, if that.

Speaker 1:

Little quicker through the glass.

Speaker 2:

Right, right, she has heels. She has heels.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, so this was. Was this when you were 17, or were you older at this point?

Speaker 2:

No, I was 17. She was 16.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so this was during your dumb years.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, yeah, very dumb.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, very dumb, so. So. So, the two of you, you kind of just sort of drifted apart at that young age, and then, then what happened next?

Speaker 3:

Well, the next time that I think I saw him, I was like maybe in my early 20s early, something like my early 20s.

Speaker 1:

It was like five years ago, six years ago, yeah.

Speaker 3:

That's honey, yeah, and I was walking down the street and all I saw was his, this truck pull up in front of me or right behind me or something.

Speaker 2:

I had a blue suburb and it was 93. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So this was some years later.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this is a good 10, 12 years later.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And.

Speaker 2:

I saw her, I was, I was, I was with my present wife.

Speaker 3:

You was at that time present.

Speaker 2:

Okay, at that time present that's what I meant yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the.

Speaker 2:

X, yeah, the X and her kids. And as soon as I saw her, what happened.

Speaker 3:

Pulled over, with her in the car and got out the truck and came and hugged me yeah, talked for a couple of seconds and I kept going where I was going.

Speaker 1:

He got back in the truck and he's all flustered and you're just playing it. Cool, right? Okay, let's see how this goes, all right.

Speaker 3:

And then what happened?

Speaker 2:

I was working at the airport.

Speaker 3:

The more years later.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, a few years later, about no? I was working at the airport when I saw him.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he was like in his 30s then.

Speaker 2:

Right and I was working traffic control and I was wanting to smoke your bare hat. Do what you told to keep it pushing, keep it pushing. And so I was working at Southwest and it was downstairs when they would let people come and pick up their people at the curb. And I looked way down at the beginning of the terminal and I saw this beautiful wine chain. Oh my, look at this. And of course you know me being a man, I started from the ground up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and it seemed that the whole she was getting familiar. And when I got to her face I'm like that's her and I yelled to her Fabre. And she turned around and that was it. This was November 1999.

Speaker 1:

He knew that walk. That's what it was. He knew the walk from behind he would find it more, just like today, yes, she does Wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay, forgive me for this one, Okay, but he was thinking to himself.

Speaker 2:

Where are?

Speaker 1:

you from you sex to thank.

Speaker 2:

Yes, sir, you Come on, you are absolutely right. All right, man, listen to me trying to bring a funk.

Speaker 1:

I remember that, hey man, I know you got it All right.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we've been together ever since, yeah, but I had to get rid of the trash that was not you took the trash out right.

Speaker 3:

Okay. I'm the bushes, the backyard, all right you know what's funny?

Speaker 2:

When we saw each other that second time I had been, my divorce was final April, June, July, August, September.

Speaker 1:

That would have been like seven months or eight months, eight months yeah, when I saw her, that was it.

Speaker 3:

And you know even in the beginning All right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's what they say, right? That's why it's supposed to be good luck to put all eights in the price of your home when you're selling it, right? Yes, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 1:

So where did we go from here? That was it. You saw, you sang that song in your head. You went up, you grabbed your girl and you've been together since. Where did we go from there?

Speaker 3:

We got grabbed again.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

You know, there's this tradition called watch night in the black community. Okay, and that's where black people used to always come together on New Year's Eve and pray in the new year.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 3:

And they were praying against another year of slavery. So still now some churches have watched night where they just come together and pray.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

And on this particular watch night I was at that time I had started going to his church where his ex-wife and her children went.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 3:

So we were at watch night service. We were at watch night service and the pastor asked for testimonies.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

So I went up with a testimony because I believe that God had blessed me, and the testimony I had was that me and my mother, two years earlier, had wrote the vision and made it plain, like God said in the word. He said write the vision and make it plain. Okay, and you pray over that. And so we named everything we could think of in a man for this wife and when I say I truly and totally believe every single thing that was on that list, plus things we hadn't even thought of, was this guy.

Speaker 1:

He checked every single box and then some right.

Speaker 3:

And added more. And so I'm on the microphone and I'm telling the testimony about this and it just came out of the box and I was like wow, sean, will you marry me?

Speaker 1:

Whoa, wow, you know that is great. Oh, that's great, Thanks After he finished laughing then he said yeah, there you go that's, that is so cool, that's it and we just been.

Speaker 2:

that's it yeah.

Speaker 3:

We've been together ever since, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Even if I do get on these chairs. She did, yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love it. Well, isn't that great we have. We have two couples in this in this house, a couple and a half right now in the studio, but two couples in this house that are so feeling the same way, so blessed to have been able to find one another and and and make it work and, like you said, just checks all of those boxes you know and and then some, and it's. It's a rarity when that happens, but when it does yes, you, you've got to recognize it.

Speaker 1:

You got to hold on to it. You know where it came from.

Speaker 3:

And it's so many people that they're looking for, and then they're even tolerating less than they deserve. Yeah, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Male and female yes, no you're absolutely right, and I feel bad.

Speaker 3:

It's a lot of times my husband and I are driving down the street and we see different situations and just I just pray for him right then yeah, I do, cause you can see a lot of pain sometimes in people and for me and my husband to have lived our lives like we have and been so happy together and fulfilled in our marriage, where it's no gains, no manipulating, no, none of that, it's just communicating, laughing, even if we get mad, we do our meds, laugh like yeah, right, okay.

Speaker 3:

I think the longest was 48, four hours yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's the longest you stayed mad at big sexy was four hours.

Speaker 3:

He bounced by and I was like okay.

Speaker 1:

I forgot what I was mad about I love it oh I love it, but, yeah, but. But to what you said, though, fab. It's unfortunate but, but there are guys and girls out there that are willing to settle for less than they deserve.

Speaker 1:

Just to be with someone, just to have someone Exactly, and you should never settle for less than you are worth and you deserve. Yeah, no, no, you're absolutely right. Yeah, I mean, I know from me. I have said that the time that Catherine and I have been together and it's coming up on six years, cool and it is well. Let me back up first. A lot of people say with the next relationship, oh, it's the best, it's the best until the next one comes along, you know. But but with Catherine, this, this time that we've been together, has been the best years of my entire adult life because with her it's been completely drama free.

Speaker 1:

No drama it doesn't mean that, let's put it this way, I get upset with her a lot more than she gets upset with me. It's just not in her, it's not in her DNA. She just, I mean, she just lets things roll off like water off a duck's back, you know, and me it just you know things get me and you know, yeah, you know I'm the hot one, you know, and.

Speaker 1:

but but it is so drama free. And I think that maybe because we were both we're both the same age and we were both 52, when, when we, when we got together, and when you have that much life experience behind you, you know what you're looking for, you know what you're willing to accept and what is an absolute no, no, you will not accept. And so you can. I believe you can find the right one a lot quicker than when you're 21 and you don't know.

Speaker 3:

You don't know a thing.

Speaker 1:

You're just as dumb as dirt at that point and and you don't know a thing. So I think that's one of the reasons why it was so easy for the two of us, and and maybe for you as well. You're talking a good 16, almost 17 years afterwards, right After when you were 16, exactly, exactly. So you had, you had that much life experience behind you and you knew those feelings. They stayed with you the whole entire time, that whole time. So it all came back and that's it. That's her right there. That's the one and there is no other. And bam.

Speaker 3:

I was not good at communicating verbally.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

My communication was a lot more physical. Oh, okay. So when I was getting upset with him, which I was short tempered.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

I didn't know how to come and say I'm sorry, I didn't even know. He used to do that to me to the point where I would get mad at him for saying it first. He would just come and say to you and I know I was wrong, I started. And he would come and I didn't know how to forgive until this man really got my life. I did not know.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that's zero, okay, not.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna forgive a no bot, oh wow.

Speaker 3:

This guy right here, that's great, I was getting on his last nerve and he would be so patient he would just go okay.

Speaker 1:

Hey.

Speaker 3:

Wow.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, do that. Oh, this is completely defused the situation, without, almost without even trying. Huh, yes, oh, yes, I understand that. I do. I understand that. That's great, all right, let me see something right here, sean. Let me see your hand. Let me see your hand. Oh okay, wait, all right, wait, I don't know if you can take that off.

Speaker 1:

I just want to get in front of the camera there. All right, people, I'm gonna show you this Also. You know, it's probably because of this right here that I'm gonna show you. Sean and I we're gonna be buddies forever now, forever, forever. See this right here, people. I don't know if. Yeah, there it is. We get it on this pretty good. That is the Raider logo. Oh, let me get back in front of the microphone. Professional broadcaster. Yeah, that is a Raider logo. Yeah, and that's the Raider logo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I saw that on Sean's finger and I thought, oh no, don't tell me that's a Raider ring and don't you tell me you're a Raider fan. And he said, and I said I am too, and he looked at me like no, I said no, no, no, that's my team.

Speaker 1:

right there, that is my team.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and he threw out some names. I'm like yeah.

Speaker 1:

He's for real. Yeah, that's right. He's for real, that's right, uh-huh, so I liked it. Oh, and then I saw your other ring too, so let me see that class ring. Let me see that, yeah. Oh, let me put my glasses on Is this your class ring. That's my class ring right there. Yeah, look at that. Oh, this is oh holy oh she right here.

Speaker 1:

What do you? Got Like a 12 and a half Got to be, because mine's a 12 and yours is a little bit loose on me, so that's got to be a 12 and a half, right there.

Speaker 2:

This is the original right here. This is from Jostens.

Speaker 1:

No, that's Balfour, that's Balfour, yes and there. But when we were in school, when we were getting our class rings, there were two companies Jostens and Balfour and our school used Balfour.

Speaker 1:

I love this. So, see, look at that, see, in class of 83, just like me, uh-huh, uh-huh, I love it, I love it and yeah, so I liked that particular style and it wasn't the most expensive style. And my mom, she was a single mom at the time and she was raising three kids and you know, at the time I wanted the all yellow gold because that was the thing.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

And I didn't want the white gold and you can have your ring back Because it looked like silver, right, right, because it looked like silver.

Speaker 1:

So they had this model and it was called the Golden Saddle. So it was half and half and I thought, well, that looks pretty cool. So that's what I got and I think it cost $167 back in 1981. And I bought my daughter Tess her class ring just during her senior year of high school a couple years back and I think I paid, and it wasn't white gold, it wasn't yellow gold, I think I paid like $600 for that.

Speaker 1:

I was like holy Toledo you got to be kidding me. Sounds about right. I was like, oh wow, and I know my mom was sweating over $167 back then. Yes, yes, I was sweating asking her to pay for it, but she did. And you know, what's funny is and I'm not going to get off on too much of a tangent here, but I went to Whittier High School. We were always terrible in sports, but hey, we had a former Rader. Bob Chandler went to Whittier High School, graduated to Whittier High School.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and when the original gymnasium caught fire about 20 years ago and burned down, they rebuilt it and named it the Bob Chandler Gymnasium. Yeah, yeah, so cool. So where I was going with this is that they the school hadn't won any CIF championships in any sport since 1964. And last year they won the boys tennis. They won a CIF and so we were having a little celebration that it took a while for the kids to get their rings, but they got rings.

Speaker 1:

And I went up and I talked to the boys a little bit, you know, with nothing special, but what I noticed they were, they were all pretty proud of their, their accomplishments, rightfully so. But they all had their Letterman, Letterman jackets. They had their championship rings, but they didn't have a clats ring. And I told them I said, guys, these are things that you need to be very proud of. I'm glad they had their Letterman's jackets, Cause I told them that those things that they don't they're not huge anymore, especially clats rings and be proud of where you go to school and sport, that I don't wear this every day, but I still have it and I wear it quite often. It's like a rotation. So I mean I'm wearing it at least like once a week, and so I'm just very proud of it. It says it's a nice piece of jewelry, Yours is a gorgeous ring and it is, and yeah, so I don't know. Anyway, I didn't want to get off on a tangent there but we're talking about rings.

Speaker 1:

So we're talking, but look, when I don't have guests, whether it's in studio or I stream them in I talk a lot about music. You happen to be a musician? Absolutely, Absolutely. You tell me about it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, my primary instrument is bass guitar, but I do fiddle with piano guitar, drums and trumpet.

Speaker 1:

Wow. So, multi instrumentalist.

Speaker 2:

Awesome.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that is. I think that is just, it's like unreal. It's unreal to me because as much as I love music and I've always loved music just I mean my entire life pretty much. I won't go into it, people, I know I've shared the story enough, I'm not going to talk about it, but I am fascinated and I have so much admiration for those who play an instrument, because I don't, as much as I love it, I don't play an instrument. I couldn't play a note to save my life, which to me is very sad. I've got an acoustic guitar hanging in my attic. I've got a. I've got a bass guitar that needs repair work. That's hanging in my attic and I don't play anything. I took viola in elementary school. I was in the fifth grade. I took viola for about two months and I quit because the music teacher had to put tape on the across the neck, so that, because you know, I'm in a viola like a violin doesn't have frets or anything.

Speaker 2:

So you would know, where you put it, my finger position it.

Speaker 1:

So I knew my finger positioning. And he was trying to teach me music, teach me to read, and I wasn't getting it. And so I was, I was getting frustrated, he was getting frustrated, and so I just stopped and and I, I just it upsets me to this day because I, I mean, when I, when we're in church on Sundays and I watch the worship team, and they're up there and they're playing, and there's young people and people my age and and I just sit there and I, man, I just, I just have so much I admire what you do because you can play an instrument and then, especially if they pick up more than one, oh gosh, it's all over, you know. So I think that's awesome. When did you first start playing and what was your first instrument?

Speaker 2:

That's the funny thing my very first instrument. When I was going to Hawthorne Christian School. The music teacher was the main, Mr Angelino.

Speaker 1:

Good.

Speaker 2:

Italian Right.

Speaker 1:

Right yeah.

Speaker 2:

And he taught me to play violin. So my very first instrument was a violin. And after I graduated no, I left Hawthorne and went to Henry Clay Junior High School where I picked up the trumpet and started playing the trumpet and got real proficient in that. Awesome. So I'm I'm playing like first chair in the band, playing in the jazz band under Johnny Spencer. Everybody knows that name, you know, watch out for those erasers. All right, and I heard my cousin play a bass and I just, I just fell in love with it. So after that I bought a bass, I bought some instructional books and basically taught myself. You know, I'd listen to music and just play along with it and that's, that's how I got proficient with bass. The other instruments were just for, like necessity. If we were, if we might have been in the studio writing a song and we needed a drum beat. Yeah, I can.

Speaker 1:

Right, right.

Speaker 2:

You know, I could keep that, keep something basic, some guitar parts throw that in there, keyboard parts, lead lines put that in there. But but primarily and and I do some vocal work too.

Speaker 1:

So big sexy over here. He's going to start giving me singing lessons. I'm going to let you all know that.

Speaker 2:

And believe it or not.

Speaker 1:

I for those who aren't watching. He's rubbing on fab and she's just giggling Because she doesn't know why she knows where I'm going. Okay.

Speaker 2:

When one of the things we had my wife and I have had so many first time experiences with different things and one, one first time experience was her singing. Now, my wife couldn't hold a note in a bucket.

Speaker 1:

She was like my wife.

Speaker 2:

Hold down Off and flat at the same time, we'll be in the key of A flat. She's in Z, flat minor. And then she would argue with me then and say that's the note I'm singing.

Speaker 1:

I'm saying it right. I'm saying it right, that's right. I said that is not right, honey, that's not right, yeah.

Speaker 2:

But after after working with her for so long and working her nerves for so long now. Now she's a proficient vocalist and she can even pick out parts. Oh, by listening to a song most songs, you know people will go straight to the heart of the I'm sorry, the melody.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

What they hear most prevalent. She goes directly to the harmony, which is, which is more harder to hear, right, but she goes right to it now. So she's yeah, but you should have heard before.

Speaker 3:

Oh, oh I went for bass I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did I did yeah. The first time I picked up his bass and tried to play. He's like okay, baby, this part right there, now's drunk and I'm doing it is making absolutely no family. No family, no.

Speaker 1:

No, you know. You know, like I said I, I I've loved music since I was a kid. Um, actually, you know what? No, I want you to tell me. Since you are a musician, you obviously love music. You play multiple instruments. Tell me about the first time, or the time, or maybe around the time, if you can remember back to when it was that that music hit you right there and you fell in love with music.

Speaker 2:

That would be when I was in the sixth grade, going to Henry Clay Jr High.

Speaker 3:

School. Okay, all right.

Speaker 2:

I'm. Uh. There was a popular song out then by the Isley Brothers Um, what was the neighbor? Take me to the next phase.

Speaker 3:

Take me.

Speaker 2:

That was the song. And we're sitting in the home room and you know there's nothing to do in the home room. You just sit there and you know they take attendance make sure for five minutes or so.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

No, back then it was like half an hour. Oh wow, it was like half an hour. So I'm beating on the desk, I'm making a beat, and I started singing a song and everybody looked back and they're like, oh man, I can see, can I Really? So come to find out. Then I had a voice. That was about the time that I switched from trumpet to bass and pretty much that was it. Okay, that was it, my, my, uh, everything started with the Isley. Brothers.

Speaker 1:

All right.

Speaker 2:

Okay, all right yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know it, it it starts somewhere and then you just you keep searching and seeking out different artists or bands and that kind of thing, and I know that's how. That's how it was for me, of course, and I know I know you saw behind me, you saw my Kiss stuff and and we talked for a few minutes and I am I'm just a huge Kiss fan.

Speaker 2:

You got a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1:

And you were talking about when you were a kid, you know, and we're the same age, and that you were a Kiss fan too. Yep, and Sean's telling me, I had a live and I had a live too, and I love gun and yep, had them all.

Speaker 2:

So, um, um that's how you knew I was real. When you start throwing out that information, they're like, oh no, it's when you started singing God of thunder, that's what I had.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, that was good. But but, um, you know, I still remember where I was and I'm not telling the story, people, I already told you, okay. Um, but I still remember where I was when music hit me and it just like, and I just fell in love with it. And then I remember my, my brother, jim. He introduced me to a band, uh, and my, my, my brother's older than I'm he's nine and a half years older than I am, so he was, he was already uh in college and he introduced me to a band named Uriah Heap and they, they started in 69 and they're still touring to this day, but they're, they're one of those bands that I just absolutely love as well. But then I remember it was uh, it was about 1976, or probably late 76 or early 77, you know, and and that's when.

Speaker 1:

That's when I discovered Kiss, and like they were my band, that was my band, and, and, but for for a few years it was like there was no other band other than Kiss. I couldn't listen to any other band.

Speaker 1:

Don't introduce me to this band because it's a threat they're, they're all threats to my love for Kiss. But I want to say, as I got older I probably probably into the later 70s and even the early 80s, once I got into high school and I started listening to a lot of top 40 radio, because top 40 radio was completely different than it is. There's no, no such thing as top 40 now, and what I loved about it no such thing as music. Well, okay, sean said it, okay.

Speaker 1:

So, send your comments to Sean. But you heard so many different types of music, so many different genres. You could hear a rock song, you hear a pop song, you hear adult contemporary, you hear a country, you hear a disco song, you hear an R&B song, you hear a dance song, and it was all you know. And then, as we got in later in the 80s or not later, but but you know, 80 to 83, then started to hear a little bit of new wave, and so I had so much exposure to all of that and I love all of it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I know people won't believe it, but I love disco. Love me some disco, because first I loved to dance, now I might not be able to. I might not be able to play anything.

Speaker 3:

Excuse me. Excuse me, can you say that one more time? You love to?

Speaker 1:

dance I do. You know I can't, I can't do the hustle or anything like that, but I can keep time and I have good rhythm and so I do. I love to dance, but it's but it's. I think a lot of it is because of that exposure to a bunch of different genres of music and I think when, when, when you talk, we'll go back to disco. When you talk disco, the first, I think one of the first things that people come to that comes to folks minds is the Bee Gees and Donna Summer, both absolutely dynamite artists. But it goes beyond that too. It goes beyond that and and I do, and I love the Bee Gees and I love Donna Summer, I have her on playlists and everything else. You know she's just so cool, but but you know, it's just I don't know. There's something about music and just being exposed to different genres, you know.

Speaker 3:

So absolutely I just love the fact that this is a nice thing to hear that a husband likes to do.

Speaker 1:

That's a loud fake fab stuck on that one, that'll be.

Speaker 3:

So what are you trying to say? Well, what are you trying to do?

Speaker 2:

here we're going to have two discussions right here two conversations.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to talk to you and fab's going to talk to Sean over there. Huh yeah.

Speaker 2:

She wants me to, she wants me to do the band thing, and dance with her more.

Speaker 1:

So I'm going to do it. I think would be really cool. So you want to like do like ballroom dancing or something like that or what, just want to dance. You just want to go out to a club somewhere and just get down. Oh, okay, she's going to beat you. We're talking. We're talking about music and your musicianship and all that, sean. So what I mean? Do you play in a band currently?

Speaker 2:

Currently I play in. I play for my church praise team, I play for a mass choir Miracle Mass Choir with Tim Bishop Brown, and there's also a band that I play with called the G Funk Squad. So those are my primaries right there. And then there's the occasion that I'll play for another ministry that I'm affiliated with, Open Door Worship Center. So I play with them and then different other conferences or engagements that might come up. But those are my three primaries Agape, Christian Fellowship, Miracle Mass Choir and the G Funk Squad.

Speaker 3:

Under Tim Bishop Brown. And for those of you that may have recognized his name, what's the song that he wrote, that main song? You got so many. If the law, if the law oh, he's done enough.

Speaker 2:

Featuring his sister Zanetta, mother Brown, oh my gosh.

Speaker 3:

If you are not ready for somebody to blow your wig off with some worship.

Speaker 2:

That one right there.

Speaker 3:

I am so serious she can hit notes that Jesus is like okay, that's a little high.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, oh, that's great.

Speaker 3:

They have an awesome something coming up on March 2nd somewhere too, but that's the anniversary concert. Yeah, but she's yeah and somebody have you ever been like in some kind of movie or something? Shawnee.

Speaker 1:

Oh no.

Speaker 2:

Oh she's talking about the the Mahalia Jackson biography that was on. I forgot. I forgot what network it was on.

Speaker 3:

It might have been on prime.

Speaker 2:

I don't remember, but it's the Mahalia Jackson story and it stars uh, Lettuce, as Mahalia Jackson. How do I spell?

Speaker 1:

Mahalia.

Speaker 2:

M-A-H-A-L-I-A.

Speaker 1:

M-A-H-A-I-L-A Okay.

Speaker 3:

That's the people that don't do school.

Speaker 1:

And you said that's a, it's a, it's a like a biopic, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah.

Speaker 3:

And what were you doing in it, honey?

Speaker 2:

Playing an upright bass.

Speaker 3:

Oh, he looks so sexy, an upright.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, no, okay, I mean, I'm not sure that's the difference in how you play that, other than the fact that it stands up and you know, heck, yeah, is it really?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. The fingering is so much different. You have to be so much more precise with the fingerboard on on a upright bass. It's Really it's crazy that the the the way you have to place your fingers. If this even a little bit to the up or down, your note is going to be sharper, flat, and it's so there's there's like almost no forgiveness in that, then playing a regular bass?

Speaker 1:

None, okay.

Speaker 2:

None, okay, huh, none, and I do. I have, amongst several bases, I have a fretless bass which is the same fingerboard you?

Speaker 1:

don't see those. You don't see those very often at all.

Speaker 2:

No, nobody wants to mess with them.

Speaker 1:

There's only one. There's only one musician that I'm aware of that I know, I should say, that plays a fretless bass, and that's his name is Tony Franklin. He was. He was in a band called the firm in the in the mid eighties. That was Jimmy Page, Paul Rogers, Tony Franklin.

Speaker 1:

I think, Chris Slade was in that band also. Then he was in another band, I think it was blue murder. That was in the late eighties. But oh gosh, I heard what he was doing now. But yeah, I heard he plays a fretless bass. I'm like why don't you figure that stuff out?

Speaker 2:

There is there are no dots, there are no friends. Right, it is just smooth and dark.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And you just got to know your fingering. You got to know your finger position Like wow, and I'm getting it.

Speaker 3:

I know a sexy guy.

Speaker 1:

I love this, my biggest cheerleader.

Speaker 3:

Great.

Speaker 2:

Even when I don't think it's, it's possible, she yes it is yeah, yeah you can?

Speaker 3:

I think that's awesome.

Speaker 1:

That is. That's just the best.

Speaker 3:

Okay, mess it up one more time and then give up. Can give up any either.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm going to give up. I'm going to give up. She's pushed me and pushed me and pushed me. Well, you know, oh, Okay, so. So now, Sean, you weren't with us last week but because Fab called into the show and I had put the call out to the audience that anyone who called into the show, and for everyone again for the newbies and for the not so newbies, this is Jepsen's Malort. It's out of Chicago. It is the worst tasting alcohol. It was actually it was. I believe it was created during prohibition because remember, you couldn't sell alcohol, no it was created that and it was sold as medicine.

Speaker 3:

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's yeah it, you know there's a lot of different descriptions for the for the taste of this stuff, but just for you at home that are watching or listening in your car, fab says I got to taste that, what's it called that? She couldn't get it right. She says I got to taste that. I got to know how that tastes. So this is what we're going to do right here. So Fab's going to get her a taste of Malort. I'm not going to let you go by yourself, though, okay, I'm not going to let you go with this alone. That's a big shot there. Oh, no, that's not mine, this is mine. If you, if you want in on some of this big sexy, you're more than welcome to it. But I'm not going to twist your arm because we're not here to get tanked up or anything. We're not here to get poor up. We're just here to have some fun. Yeah, so I'm going to get this.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you want to look, oh he wants.

Speaker 1:

He wants a little bit of that.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I got some Sonic grapes.

Speaker 1:

It gets too bad. There's a nice chaser and I Got three bottles of this, so you know. So there, there you go, and this is yeah, is this Scotty? Oh, I don't know, I didn't see who. I poured that who's oh yeah, yeah yeah, chief engineer, mr Scott. I need my power captain, that's right, good, she's not gonna hold together. Right, come apart. So, hey to to malort. Okay, yeah, we go, here we go. Wow, I told you I didn't fake it, fam.

Speaker 3:

I told you no, no, no. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1:

Good thing you brought that slushy chaser up here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, it's that bad oh yeah, that aftertaste is even worse it stays on your tongue yes, it does yes, it's not that you know what that tastes like. Remember, yes, remember three sixes.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, this is worse you know what I how I? I describe it as Mouthwash. That has gone bad. It's just, it's like 13 years like yeah, yeah, like some, like somebody kept the bottle in the trunk of their car for about two, three years you forgot about it you had all the temperature changes, getting hot, getting cold and everything else and it just kind of ferments.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you asked yeah, no, no, yeah, well, I like to play games with it. I mean, I I didn't create the malort challenge, but I like to play the malort challenge and I think I got away with it one time with my family and once was enough for all of them. They said they weren't gonna do it anymore and I said, but it's just for fun, but that stuff is nasty. I said then it's because what we do is it's. It's kind of we involve a little bit of trivia and if you get the answer wrong you've got to take a shot of malort. Don't get the answer wrong, am I right? People get it right.

Speaker 3:

I guess yeah, that's what they Guess.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's the story that I hear. Yeah, that's it, right there skip your booster shots people you don't need. You need none of that.

Speaker 2:

You need none of that, yeah just come with us right here by the meat of Vegeman.

Speaker 3:

You know what I just have to tell? You are just so fun, you are so.

Speaker 1:

Fun with the capital F.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's nice. I'm just Really is the honor to even just come and just hang out. This is so fun and cool.

Speaker 1:

Look, it's a it's a pleasure just to have the two of you in here. It's, it's, it's a pleasure to meet the two of you. To meet you face to face, because we kind of met last week that but to meet you face to face, to have the two of you in here, have you on here talking a little bit about yourselves, sharing a little bit about your story. It really is, it's a pleasure, it's an honor for me, I feel, I feel blessed that you, that you wanted to do this, and, and that's what it's really all about. I I say it over and over again and I'll never stop, because, even though my audience is small, it is growing a little bit. Okay, and this is about telling your story. That's what it's about, and and and I say this to Everyone has a story, not just the famous, not just people celebrity yes absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Everyone has a story and those stories deserve to be told and they deserve to be heard.

Speaker 3:

And I hear you, lisa Rio, I don't say nothing.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah she's, yeah, she's a good one. She's obviously the one that hooked us up, that put us together. But you know, really that's that's, that's the crux of this podcast, that's why I wanted to do it, and so I'm doing it, and I am not in any way, shape or form looking to ever make any money on this. I'm doing this strictly for the love of it, to have people come in studio or, if I can't, if they can't, to stream and Just have people on the show just talking about talking about their stories, and so this is now. This has just been a pleasure.

Speaker 1:

Oh go, you know, of course, that's what this is all about the other part is when we got back together.

Speaker 3:

My honey was very overweight and so little me.

Speaker 1:

That's where the big in big sexy came from right, oh yeah, yeah he was.

Speaker 3:

They used to call him big heck, his blackling detector Yep, so that was his name, and he wound up getting into a car accident at LA X. Oh gosh and because he was overweight, they couldn't do anything for him. As far as his back okay, I had heard his back and, long story short, that I'm dragging out it's okay. Surgeries oh. And it was supposed to be one kind, but they actually did something something else. Yeah, it was supposed to be the.

Speaker 2:

Double duodenum ruin white gastric bypass.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I remember that, gosh what they did, was they, they didn't really never they would shrink your stomach.

Speaker 1:

Yes, okay.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, barely At all. Okay they kept, so it was very large, and then they took some of his large intestines. Yeah cut that and a lot of his small intestines. Okay, so when he eats things now, his body absorption is only like 30% right, okay, it's not fair. He eats as much as you want. He doesn't have to leave any left over nothing all right. Hey, he got, he had that surgery and then he got a picture a Mercer staff infection.

Speaker 3:

Incision yeah he did hundred and four hundred and five fever, steady for like a month. Oh and wow, ice bed, ice packs, all that. So they they took 64 ct's of blood out of him.

Speaker 3:

They separated the white and the red blood closer than like they separated the white what in the red blood cells from the 64 ounces of blood they took from him. Yeah, they Radiated the white cells, put it back into him so they could see where exactly the infections were. Bottom line they do the second surgery and they made this gigantic, 22 by 16 hole in his stomach and he had to have what they called a womb vac machine. So that's a machine that 24 hours a day. It has a sponge and I would have to put it in the hole, turn the machine and seal it like a band aid okay and Turn that machine on and it would just suction 24-7 that that hole close.

Speaker 3:

This went on for, I think, two, three months. Yeah no, he was longer than that. Maybe, six close it. They had to close it like six.

Speaker 1:

It was the most horrific, so so that's that that device is what drew the the wound close.

Speaker 3:

Wow, Okay okay, yeah, it still was there Okay.

Speaker 2:

Oh, the second surgery was with no anesthesia. Oh, oh, they took the state of my stomach. Oh yeah open me up, got the scissors and started cutting. Yeah, oh gosh, oh, so you, I felt every snip, I felt every oh, oh he can eat.

Speaker 3:

He had to have a pick line. Yeah, main artery, yeah, okay, so then, long story short, it was a year and a half of recovery.

Speaker 2:

Wow.

Speaker 3:

I'm telling you, it was that year and a half of recovery and co-payments Was oh my god.

Speaker 1:

Let me tell you, what you sell us right now, what God did.

Speaker 3:

Bankruptcy. Out of that, all the mouth plus Right after we did. I think it was about a month after that happened right. That's when the laws change and you can no longer do that. So we were just grateful, because there's we couldn't just.

Speaker 1:

We couldn't, we couldn't medical bills are just so insane. You know medical costs and all that and it's a racket yeah it's bananas, it absolutely is. I know. I just here and I'm complaining because I was off for the last year because I had shoulder surgery. Come on, wow, twice the man I am. I Twice, maybe three times, holy Toledo yeah, and he was going into 66.

Speaker 2:

Yeah yeah, shirt was 6x. I Tipped the scales at.

Speaker 3:

No way.

Speaker 1:

No no, no see. No, I like this Sean. I like this Sean better, because now we all get in the studio here. We would admit no, you and I would be sitting out in the hallway, sean would have been in the studio by himself. You try to find a picture there.

Speaker 3:

But man, that guy, I'm telling you he is back right now. The last three dates still make a Z, because even after all that yeah they could not get that together so and how long ago was this?

Speaker 2:

The surgery was May 8th 2001.

Speaker 1:

Wow, 23 years. Gonna be 23 years in May, right.

Speaker 2:

Because we got married in 2001. Yeah, and it was the May before we got married so it could have been 2001.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

I don't even see the purpose to get into it.

Speaker 1:

I love it. I love it, I love it so Bigger you how much do you weigh?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and I was kind of rude. And I was. That was a good as heck. When I tell you guys they're like that night, oh, so, so much that's great, that's great.

Speaker 1:

See, god is good watching over you, man.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she left off what happened right after surgery. What happened right after surgery.

Speaker 3:

What happened?

Speaker 1:

you got to get up on the microphone a little bit.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's when my heart stopped and I wasn't breathing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, and they put him in a.

Speaker 2:

Coma for about a week. Really, she said they rolled me out and somebody was sitting on my stomach Pumping my chest. Really, they had a breathing yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, and then they gave him the Um, what you call the trait uh-huh and that was it, and he was, like I said, he was there for a week, week and a half maybe, and then he um, that trait that it started to come out. And it came out and me and his mom just stood at that door and just prayed and they were trying to get it back in and they couldn't get it back in, so we just prayed and oh yeah. Yeah, no more.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna show this to the camera, please do. Hey, look at that, people. You see that right there. That's me and fab. That's. That's where big sexy, that's where the big in big sexy came from.

Speaker 2:

That's it. Oh yeah, that's it yeah.

Speaker 1:

That is you, fab.

Speaker 3:

Man.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I like this Sean a little bit better Because I know when I go to hug him I'll be able to touch my hands will be able to touch, you know right. You probably just buried yourself right in there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she loves it right. She said she had to readjust. When I started losing weight, she had to get used to this little guy.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh. So, sean, let's, let's get back to some music a little bit.

Speaker 3:

Glad me.

Speaker 1:

Have you done? Uh, have you done, like any, any studio work or anything along that, along those lines?

Speaker 2:

Yeah yeah. I've done a lot of studio work with Uh, not just on bass, but on vocals too. I worked with uh ll kool, jay Montell, jordan as a whole backstory with him. We grew up together in the same church.

Speaker 3:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2:

His chief producer, uh, chef crawford. Um then I wrote some songs for, uh, an album. Mac 10 did no, you did not. Yeah, yeah, oh man, I was part of a writing team.

Speaker 1:

That's just so cool.

Speaker 2:

So so yeah, I've done. Oh and uh. Then I toured with uh, coolio, well one of his one of his tours, yeah, his crowbar tour. So I toured with him for that Brother's.

Speaker 1:

Johnson. Uh uh, brother's Johnson, I forgot about that.

Speaker 2:

Let me tell you about that.

Speaker 1:

See, wait, wait, yeah, no, you're gonna tell me about it a second to see when you want to tune in your stereo. When you got to equalize everything you put on the brother's johnson. And then you start, working your equalizer, you start, yeah, you start playing with the bass on the. Oh yeah, brother's johnson. They're only, they're not known for a lot of tunes on the on the billboard top 40, but I tell you, and their biggest hit is stomp, which is absolutely fabulous tune. Oh, it's an absolutely fabulous tune, but brother's johnson, all right.

Speaker 2:

So what happened was with um, a group that a band I was playing with then called wild bunch.

Speaker 1:

Okay, uh, it was about okay, wait, we guys really wild, or just a name. No, yes, no, yes, yeah, wild bunch was really wild trying to give them the business, but no, they were really wild.

Speaker 2:

They were wild. Okay, we were wild, and um we were. Um. We were supposed to play With the Ohio players. Oh, okay. In uh in paul springs.

Speaker 1:

You all know that one roller coaster, oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

So, oh, so we were supposed to. We're gonna get down we were gonna get down.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so you're supposed to play with Ohio players right in palm springs, in palm spring, and this was when this was maybe 1990, okay, ground about that, uh, early 90s, okay.

Speaker 2:

And uh, what happened was the Ohio players couldn't come. So they backed out what? And at the last minute it did right, right, and we had a whole Whole Ohio players set done and we had rehearsed. So they backed out. So, uh, we're like, okay, what we're gonna do. So at the last minute the promoter tells us Okay, you guys are gonna kick with with the brothers johnson tonight. Oh, we were like Ha ha. So we ran out and got some brothers johnson cds and uh, since I knew a lot about the brothers johnson, I could tell them we're probably gonna do this, we're probably gonna do this, probably gonna do this. So one song we did was um um starberry, letter 22. And uh, when we went to rehearse it oh, by the way, louis johnson could make it, but george johnson came. So, of course, since the bass player for brothers johnson couldn't be there, who got to step in? Who's the?

Speaker 1:

man yeah.

Speaker 2:

So we we started practicing with george and, uh, I'm playing the bass line. He's like who's that on bass? And everybody like they practiced it. That's big head. Ah, yeah, okay big. If you playing it wrong. I'm like what? So he goes and he plays it on the guitar and I'm like, oh, that's how I went. So when I learned how it actually went, I played it and he said you sound just like my brother, oh, there you go.

Speaker 2:

That was the greatest compliment then I was the greatest couple for him to say that I sound like thunder thumbs, johnson.

Speaker 1:

Now, now that's a lesson to you, ohio players. Don't ever, don't ever, mess with the wild bunch. Okay, you see what?

Speaker 2:

happens? Told you yeah that's awesome sugarfoot.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome, that is so cool oh that's so cool.

Speaker 2:

The stuff is I've just forgotten wow, so, uh, so what other?

Speaker 1:

okay, there's, as far as I know, anyway, remember, I'm not a musician, but as far as I know, playing the bass there's like three styles. You can play with a pick, right, you can, you can figure, you can pluck right, and then there's slap. Now, that's so. That's three different styles, right, right, okay, all right, I love to hear me some slap bass.

Speaker 2:

Yes, sir.

Speaker 1:

I love to hear me some slap bass. I do, and as far as I know, there's only one Bass player that I've. I've seen that I've heard Play slap and it floors me every time Randy Jackson.

Speaker 2:

Really.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I just knew you were going to say um, um, not Larry Graham. I knew you were going to say Larry Graham.

Speaker 3:

I knew you were going to say.

Speaker 1:

Larry Graham, and Larry Graham was known for his bass playing. I didn't know he played slap, but he was known for the work that he did in parliament right, or was it P, or was it P funk?

Speaker 2:

Slying the family. Oh, slying Family, slying Family Stone, slying Family Stone. I had to think about it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I know, sly was right Slying the Family Stone and then, and then he, he went off and he had, uh, graham, central Station Right, and then he did his own solo stuff and, man, I brought up Randy Jackson. But speaking of Larry Graham, look my favorite song, and Catherine and I we danced to this song on our wedding One in a million. You and I'm going to tell you something, forget about his ability to play the bass, his vocal ability, especially on that song, the vocal control that he has on that song, and I'm sorry I'm pounding on the table here, but but it's necessary, but it's so good, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So good. When that song comes on, man, I just get lost and I try to sing that song and I am no Larry Graham, but uh, man, it is so good, so I don't know where you could give vocal lessons.

Speaker 2:

Another big guy right here, huh, yeah, oh, so good I was getting ready to say remember, uh, remember, when you were at work and I came and sang that to you in the middle of the tour.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, you did not. He sang, he sang that song.

Speaker 3:

I was a little supervisor at three of the restaurants in, or four of the restaurants in, terminal United.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm at work and we're everything's swamped. We've got Starbucks, we've got a salsa restaurant in Cinnabon, carl's Trout's bars next door.

Speaker 1:

Terminal seven.

Speaker 3:

Yes, okay, okay, you know it, I do this one. He comes right in the middle of the floor he's and brings me this beautiful hot air balloon bouquet it was actually beautiful, it was so and he comes up to me and he goes you ready? I'm, like you, ready for what. He gets down on one knee and he starts singing to me. Sing it, that song.

Speaker 1:

One in a million. That is just a dynamite song. It is, and I'm losing my train of thought here on the lyrics. But when you break down those lyrics, I should look them up. I'm a little stretch. I'm looking up right here. You're going to have to wait right here, people Just pause and the two of you and the two of you keep talking.

Speaker 2:

No need, no need, I got you right here. Yeah, I got you right here, man.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I hope you got it.

Speaker 2:

Love, it's, played, it's game. I'm on me. So long I started to believe I'd never find anyone. Yeah, doubt, it tried to convince me to give in.

Speaker 1:

Said you can't win.

Speaker 2:

Said you can't win, that's it, but one day the sun came shining through the rain has stopped and the skies are blue. Oh, what a revelation.

Speaker 1:

Yes, sir, someone was saying I love you to me. Oh, so good.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh, so good, I know that song Back and forward. Oh, that is yes. So I think it too is so so passionate.

Speaker 1:

Yes, are those lyrics. Yeah, man, and that's why I remember hearing that. Like I said, that song, I think, is 1980. I think summer of 1980 is when that song came out.

Speaker 3:

And.

Speaker 1:

I love the song back then in high school and, for whatever reason, it meant so much when I met Catherine.

Speaker 2:

Hmm.

Speaker 1:

Hmm, because it said the rain stopped and the skies were blue and it was an oh, what a revelation to see someone was actually saying I love you, to me. You know that kind of thing, oh, that's the oh gosh. I feel you. That is the beautiful thing about music what it just does and it just hit you right in the heart.

Speaker 2:

Yes, bro, yeah yes.

Speaker 1:

Oh see, I'm talking Randy Jackson, you're talking Larry Graham. There we go, all right.

Speaker 2:

But I gotta check out. I gotta check out Randy Jackson. I knew he was a musician.

Speaker 1:

Well, he did a tour. He's done a lot of studio work, done a lot of studio work. But he did a tour with Journey back in 1986. He was he, the guys that parted ways with Ross Valerie and Steve Smith, the, their, their rhythm section and they brought in trying to think of, trying to think of the guy's name, I can't remember I always want to say Dan Baird, and it's not and I can't remember his name on drums, and then Randy Jackson on bass, and I saw that tour was the raised on radio tour in 86.

Speaker 1:

And and now he didn't go crazy, but he went out there and he had his nice little bass solo and he's playing slap and I'm going, what is this? And I'm going, man, and speaking of big boys, that's when Randy was a lot bigger too, but he, but he was just, he was getting down with that thing and I thought that is so cool because I had never seen anybody play slap before. And he just boom, boom, boom, boom and oh, it was great, great stuff. But that's so cool. He brought up Larry Graham because we got to sing a little bit together. Oh, that's the best I'm telling you. That highlighted the show.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. How about that, yeah. How about that, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's my man right there. Yes, sir, see, yeah. You know I can't. I can't thank you enough for doing this. I can't thank you enough for coming in and playing around and having some fun drinking some of Lord. You get that taste out of your mouth, yet it's finally gone. It's just sticks around the back of your tongue.

Speaker 2:

It does, it sticks around.

Speaker 1:

All right, look, let's let's let's wrap this up, folks. That's a wrap. Okay, again, this podcast is available on multiple podcast platforms like Apple Podcasts, amazon Music and Spotify, or just simply search the Ben Mader program. Choose your option. I like to steer everyone towards bus spread, as you know, and once again, if you can't resist beautiful people like the three of us, watch it on YouTube. And if you're watching this on YouTube, please subscribe to the channel, give us a thumbs up and leave a comment. Yeah, all right, with that we are done, and let me get this right here.

Speaker 2:

And we, oh yeah, we're we're thanks for having us hey this is the Ben Mader program.

Speaker 1:

Tell a friend.

Introduction to Ben Maynard Program
Finding True Love and Avoiding Settling
Communication, Rings, and Music
Experiences With Music and Instruments
Discussion About Music and Dancing
The Malort Challenge and Personal Stories
Medical Nightmare and Recovery
Studio Work and Musical Collaborations
Ben Mader Program Wrap-Up and Promotion