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As we mark the 50th anniversary of Aerosmith's groundbreaking masterpiece "Toys in the Attic," I'm taking you on a personal journey through one of rock's most influential albums and its lasting impact on music history.

Released on April 8, 1975, this nine-track, 37-minute powerhouse would go on to sell over 9 million copies and deliver two of Aerosmith's most enduring hits: "Walk This Way" and "Sweet Emotion." But what makes this album truly special goes far beyond those radio staples – it captured a band at the absolute peak of their powers, with guitarists Joe Perry and Brad Whitford hitting their stride after extensive touring.

My relationship with this album began as a 12-year-old Kiss fanatic reluctantly allowing another band into my musical universe. That initial resistance quickly melted away as tracks like "Uncle Salty," "Adam's Apple," and the explosive title track worked their magic. Fifty years later, these songs haven't lost an ounce of their power.

We'll also explore how this album's legacy extends far beyond its initial release. When Run DMC collaborated with Tyler and Perry on "Walk This Way" in 1986, it didn't just reach #4 on the Billboard charts – it completely resurrected Aerosmith's career after years of decline and substance abuse struggles, introducing them to an entirely new generation.

I'm counting down my personal top 20 Aerosmith songs from the 70s, and you might be surprised where some of your favorites land! Whether you're a lifelong fan or discovering these classics for the first time, join me in celebrating this landmark album that helped define American hard rock.

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I like to celebrate anniversaries, and this week there was a big, big anniversary for an album an iconic album, by the way, from one of the biggest bands in the world, all-time biggest bands in the world, and that one's right here, the 50th anniversary of this album right here. I know it's a little far away, but it's Aerosmith Toys in the Attic right there. Okay, toys in the Attic right there. So the album was released 50 years ago this week, on April the 8th, in 1975. This one is considered by many people to be their best album, especially of the six albums that were released in the 70s. So what I'm going to do, we'll do a tale of the tape here and go over some notes on the album and just really kind of celebrate this thing. All right, so let's do it. So the album contains nine tracks. The running time is 37 minutes and eight seconds.

Speaker 1:

This particular album contains two of the band's biggest and probably, or maybe their most iconic songs in the catalog, and those songs would be Walk this Way and Sweet Emotion. At the time that this album was being recorded, the band was hitting on all cylinders, probably, I would say primarily because Brad Whitford and Joe Perry had now come into their own and they were becoming real guitar players, and a lot of that had to do with the heavy touring that the band had been doing for the previous album, get your Wings. So the track listing is as follows and you know I love the vinyl, so we're going to, we're going to talk to you just like it's vinyl. Starting with side one, the title track toys in the attic, then followed up by uncle salty Adam's apple walk this way. Big 10-inch record, such a cool song. Okay, I have to stop down and talk about that song. Such a cool song. It's a cover of an old blues song and in the 70s, big 10 inch. Yeah, you know, come on when you're like 13 years old and you're taking this album in. So maybe I'll get into that a little bit later. But what? Just such a cool song. Such a cool song. So we flip it over, we go to side to start off with Sweet Emotion, then no More, no More Round and Round, and then the album closes out with you See Me Crying.

Speaker 1:

The album peaks at number 11. That was its peak position on the Billboard Top 200 album chart and as of the last RAA certification I think that was four or five years ago the album had sold over 9 million copies. 9 million copies that's tremendous. I mean from between the last time it was certified and now it may be a diamond album which, for those of you who may not know, is a 10 million seller. Walk this Way peaked at number 10 on the top 40. And the next single, or the, actually, I believe. I can't remember what order the singles were released in, but nonetheless the second, the other single on the album was Sweet Emotion, and that one topped at number 36.

Speaker 1:

The reactions and the reviews they were very, very positive all the way around. Most of the music publications were ranking at four and five stars. Really, the only hit that it was taking was in production, and we'll get into that in a little bit as well. It was. You know, the production to me, even as a kid, could have been a little bit better, but nonetheless my initial reaction to this album was. My initial reaction to this album was okay.

Speaker 1:

So, as you guys know, I'm a huge Kiss fan. They were kind of like. Kiss was kind of like my first favorite band. That was it. You know, I did have other music leading into that, but Kiss was like it for me from about 11 or 12 years old and Kiss was the only thing Posters all over the walls, all the albums, all that kind of stuff, non-stop Kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss. And at that time this is funny At that time I was a member of probably, and no, I no, no, no, I'm going to take probably out of that statement because it makes me sound wishy-washy.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to state it right here. I was a member of the first ever Kiss tribute band at 12 years old. It was called Kiss Junior what a laugh, yes, and I was going to portray Gene Simmons. Well, like I said, 12 years old, right? Anyway, um, I remember one of the one of my buddies. He'd lived across the street and we kind of had a disagreement and a falling out, so kiss junior was then no more. Well, him and I, we didn't talk for a little bit. I was mad, I was mad, and and so we were. I wasn't going to talk to him anymore. Oh, let me hit something here really quick. Sorry about that People. Uh, I want to know, I want everyone to know what's going on there. We go so, um, so, so we're not talking. And, uh, the kid's name is William. William comes across the street one time, talks talking to my younger brother Like I said, we're all into KISS and he brings this album with him across the street to the house.

Speaker 1:

It's a band called Aerosmith and the album was Get your Wings. That was my first exposure to Aerosmith. Now you've got to remember that. You know, this is the 70s, I'm 12 years old and you know I felt that at that time that every other band was like a threat to my Kiss fandom. So it was difficult to let other bands in, although I'll go back, because before I became a Kiss fan, I was a huge fan of Uriah Heep. Well, uriah Heep, for some reason, was not a threat to my Kiss fandom. I was a huge fan of Uriah Heep. Well, uriah Heep, for some reason, was not a threat to my Kiss fandom. Bizarre, but this is how the mind of a 12-year-old works. So any other band now at this point was going to be a threat.

Speaker 1:

And William comes over with this album and puts it on and start listening to it. I think my brother, my younger brother, chuck, was there too. Of course he was, and we're listening to Aerosmith and the one song that stuck out on Get your Wings was Lord of the Thighs. I mean, that song just, really just resonated with me. So that was my first exposure to Aerosmith and that was, uh see, get your wings. That was their second album, released in like 1974. Um, and now we're talking this is like 1977, probably late 76, early 77, when this is going on. And so Toys in the Attic had already been released. I wasn't even aware of it, but I started to really kind of take a liking to Aerosmith.

Speaker 1:

So when you go from Kiss, the next band I let in was Aerosmith. Really weird, I don't know. I'm sure there's somebody out there that kind of has that same experience as a child, but I do remember that going into it afterwards, going from Get your Wings, I think the next album I got was Rocks, and actually I believe that was my brother who picked up Rocks and we got all into Rocks, so much so that when I picked up Toys in the Attic, when I bought that one, I thought that was the next release after Rocks. Like I said, 12 years old, okay, I don't know, go figure right, but put on Toys in the Attic and just great stuff. You know my personal feelings on Toys in the Attic.

Speaker 1:

It's probably my favorite album in the catalog. It's that good, I just think it's. I mean it's just it's. It's almost flawless really when you think about it. Um, just great songs through and through, even though there was only two, uh two singles released off the album. So many album tracks are deep cuts and they're just so, so good, you know, going back to the track listing my favorite song, well, I mean so many, I'm not even going to go into it because I got something I'm saving for a little bit later but my reaction to it was great album, great songs, toys in the Attic, tremendous sweet emotion, great Walk this Way. Everybody dug that one, everybody dug that one. But I mean I was digging stuff like Uncle Salty and Adam's Apple. No More, no More, you know, just top to bottom, just solid.

Speaker 1:

But speaking, I talked about production earlier. Even as a 12-year-old, not knowing a thing about, you know, music, production, all that stuff, it sounded I felt like the, the, the, the production was, I guess in the 12 year old kid's mind. It sounded like it was muffled and I I'll equate it to, here we go, relating to Kiss. Again, all roads lead to Kiss, right. So it sounded kind of like production-wise. I equated it to hotter than hell, which I've spoken about previously, that it was just kind of you felt like you're like trudging or walking through mud, and I kind of felt the same in hearing this. But it certainly didn't take away from how much I liked and enjoyed the album. Just really, really good stuff. So, like I said, it's probably my favorite, probably my favorite Aerosmith album in the catalog. It's probably my favorite, probably my favorite Aerosmith album in the catalog 11 years after its release in 1986, bam Run DMC collaborates with Joe Perry, stephen Tyler, on a Walk this Way cover.

Speaker 1:

I think everybody knows that one. I mean that cover version and video turned Aerosmith's career around, resurrected their career. The song from Run DMC, that cover version, goes to number four on the Billboard chart. The video videos all over MTV for all of 1986 into 1987. Big stuff, big time. And, as I said, it resurrects Aerosmith's career.

Speaker 1:

They had been really, they'd really fallen off after their 1979 release of Night in the Ruts. That's kind of when the band didn't split up but Brad Whitford and Joe Perry had left the band. They had two releases after that with Rock in a Hard Place and Done with Mirrors. And then, well, rock in a Hard Place I should say Done with Mirrors came after Joe Perry and Brad Woodford to come back into the band. But their careers were still kind of in the toilet. They're, you know, guys in the band, they're all drugged out, they're just whacked out of their minds all this kind of stuff. So they were not in a good place. And then this happens to them with Run DMC and it just changes their trajectory. It just you know. So it's just what are you going to do? The band itself, okay. So the band itself basically kind of had two different eras, almost two different careers, because they were huge in the 70s, huge different eras, almost two different careers because they were huge in the 70s, huge. And then the resurrection in the mid to late 80s. Their next release is Permanent Vacation and things start taking off. You know, dude looks like a lady and all that kind of stuff. But they were reaching a whole different audience at that time. Now too, younger people were coming on board and their career in the late eighties, early nineties, even really into the mid to late nineties just totally, totally new audience.

Speaker 1:

For me, being an Aerosmith fan, I did. I do appreciate that late eighties, early nineties stuff. There's a little bit more of a pop sound to it. There's still some really good, hard, heavy stuff, but overall it it's a. It's kind of a different sound. Of course it's Aerosmith, but it's a different, little bit different sounding than from the stuff in the seventies Smith, but it's a different, little bit different sounding than from the stuff in the seventies.

Speaker 1:

So, uh, toys in the attic turning 50. There it is right. There there's the cover again. I know I wish I had the album. I wish I had the album. I just I know I'm sorry, you know the story with the vinyl. I'm not going to get into it, but, um, but so you're going to have to lean in, like I have to lean in from time to time to see it. But if you're listening, don't worry about it, it's all good.

Speaker 1:

I thought that in celebration of the 50th anniversary of Toys in the Attic, we can have some fun here and I put together my own top 20 Aerosmith songs from the 70s. Okay, so why don't we do that Now? I know as I go through this, I'm going to take some big time crap from you folks at home and in the cars and all that good stuff, everybody watching and listening. I'm gonna take some major heat and that's okay if I do, you can just leave it in the comments. Leave your rankings, your top 20s, in the comments. You can tell me that I'm nuts and I don't know what I'm talking about as well, but remember, this is my list.

Speaker 1:

So let's look at it this way. If I was to put together a playlist on my you know, my cell phone or whatever, and then I'm starting it with 20 Aerosmith songs. These are probably the ones I'm starting with. Okay, so, yeah, so it's just, it's my thing. Okay, no right or wrong, but I think to me these are, like my, the best 20 Aerosmith songs from the 70s, just great stuff. So I will start it right here, okay, and I know I'm taking these glasses off, put them on, take them off, put them on, take them off. What's the matter with me? Maybe I should get my eyes fixed or something. It might help out, right? All right, so let's just start right at the top and I'm gonna catch it. I'm gonna catch it right here at number 20. But it's on the list and that is from the debut album and it's Dream On, one of Aerosmith's biggest songs. It wasn't at the time. It took a long time for this song to kind of ramp up in popularity and that kind of thing. But yeah, dream On is at number 20. All right, and let's see Number 19,. I'm going to take some more heat.

Speaker 1:

Sweet Emotion, great song, obviously from my favorite album in the catalog. I probably put it at this position due to, maybe the burnout factor, maybe, I guess, because it is a great song. I mean that bass line at the beginning, it's just, you know, joe Perry on the talk box, and it's just so good. Let me get a sip of water here. It's just really, really good stuff. It's a great song. Probably a lot of people would have it in the number one position on their top 20, but I didn't punish it and leave it off the list due to the burnout factor for me. I did include it. I just put it way down on that list. Okay, on that list. Okay. So let me see Number 18,. Again, going to catch crap, but it's my list. You put your list in the comments. Okay, you give me your list. Walk this Way Same album.

Speaker 1:

Toys in the Attic Great album. Like I said, probably for the same reason, a sweet emotion, a little burnout, a little burnout on it, but it's a great song and it's so funny. As a you know, 12 year old kid or whatever, you're hearing these lyrics for the first time, you know um, oh my gosh. Now, now that we're, you know, we're on the air and and I'm having a brain cramp on the lyrics, but you know the lyrics. If you know the song, you know the lyrics. Remember, at 12 years old I was like, oh my gosh, you put it on over and over and over again, number 17. Oh, you know what? Wait before I get to 17, before I get to seven, because there is a song here on that's not on my top 20 list that I mentioned it on the Toys in the Attic album.

Speaker 1:

That's big 10 inch record and that is such a great song. It really really is, and I did. Of course I didn't include it, you know. I suppose if my list was 21 songs maybe it would be 21. But it's such a cool song, going back to the 12-year-old mind. You know big 10-inch. You know where I'm going with it, the male appendage, and. But that's what it's not what the song is about.

Speaker 1:

But in, you know, way back when, there was a lot of like double entendre when it came to the blues. And you know the, the, the lyrics, like the opening verse in the song has got me the strangest woman. Believe me, this chick's no cinch. But I really get her going when I whip out my big 10 inch record of the band that plays the blues. You know the band that plays the blues. She just loves my big 10 inch record of her favorite blues, you know. So it's. It's that kind of thing you know, throughout the song it's, it's fun, it's catchy. Aerosmith stays really true to the original version and, like I said, when you're 12 years old you're rolling around on the floor giggling because it's just so funny and it's naughty and it's dirty, but just a fun song Anyway. So I digress, let's get back to the top 20.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so at number 17, from the album of, I think to me a very, very underrated Aerosmith album and it might be my second favorite album in their catalog and that's Night in the Ruts, and the song is Mia, mia is. I think it closes out the album and it's, it's a ballad, it's a great, great ballad. It really is. It's just a really really good song and, um, I I mean I think a lot of people you know really like you See Me Crying off of Toys in the Attic and that's a great song too. I think this song is better than you See Me Crying. So just my opinion, I know you can let me have it if you want.

Speaker 1:

Number 16, also off of night in the ruts, and that would be Aerosmith's cover of the Shangri-La's remember walking in the sand? Some people aren't hip with covers too much. Um, this was. This might've been the first song off of night in the Ruts that just really grabbed a hold of me. Great lyrics, and when I first heard it I had no idea this was a cover. No clue at all. I'm not even sure if at that time I knew that bands from time to time would cover other artists' songs, so I just assumed it was an Aerosmith song all the way. Well, it is to me, because it's a great song and I do like the original version. But yeah, the Aerosmith cover, that's the one for me and it just, like I said, it grabbed me right away and I just I dig that song.

Speaker 1:

So, at number 15 off of the album, rocks, which a lot of people, a lot of Aerosmith fans, that's like that's number one, that's number one for them. The opening track, back in the Saddle Great, great, great song, great song. And I think my favorite version of that song is off of the Live Bootleg album. It opens rocks and it opens live bootleg and it's really good, steven, even though we're talking to the 70s, when these guys were just coked out of their minds and just out of their skulls and they were known for being off on a lot of nights. That version on live bootleg man, that is that I mean Steven is just giving it to you. Um, all right.

Speaker 1:

So at number 14, also off of the rocks album is nobody's fault. Good song, really good song, um, and it's off of a great album. Really good song, um, and it's off of a great album, number 13, also from an album that I think is underrated, um, it kind of got panned a little bit by the um, by the, by the rock critics, um, but I think it's a solid album. I think it is so good Um, just great material on it, and and and this song here, kings and Queens great song that when, when, you know, especially later on in in Aerosmith's career, when they had all the late 80s and 90s hits and they're playing all those and not so much from the back catalog whenever they would bust into like Kings and Queens and kind of in later years, in the last 15, 20 years it was in the set a lot more often but you had all those people just screaming for the, for, for dude looks like a lady, you know, and Janie's got a gun. But when Kings and Queens pops up, man, guys like me standing on our chair pumping our fists and everybody else is like looking around, what, what song is this fist? And everybody else is like looking around, what, what song is this? Great song, great song, number 12.

Speaker 1:

Going back to the Rocks album with this one, round and Round. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, not the Rocks album, not the Rocks, sorry. We're going back to Toys in the Attic. We're going back to Toys in the Attic and it's round and round. Nice, heavy song, really heavy. It's good, good, just, you got to listen to that. You know that I guess backbeat on the song. It just brings out some heaviness on it. Really, really, really good song. So at number 11, now we're going gonna go back to the rocks album and, uh, such an awesome song, such an awesome song. Loved it from the beginning. Last child, I was the last child, just a punk in the streets. So good, dig that song. And again, I'm going to go back to the live bootleg version. Man, really good, really, really good. All right, so we're going to crack the top 10 here, okay. So you with me At number 10 from the Night in the Ruts album.

Speaker 1:

Going back to that. I told you it might be my second favorite album in the catalog. Probably is Chiquita. Not because of the bananas, it's just so good. And, like I said, night in the Ruts is a very underrated album. The band was just coming apart. They were falling apart at the seams with the previous album, draw the Line, but it was during the recording of Night in the Ruts. That's when the wheels really were coming off and I think halfway through the recording session, brad Whitford, joe Perry, gone, checked out. So they had to, you know, get other musicians to come in and fill in the guitar parts to complete the album. But again, the album is great. That is such a great song.

Speaker 1:

If you are unfamiliar with the album, you gotta go check it out. It is so good, just so good. And at number nine, I think it's the track that comes right after Chiquita. No, is it? I think so's the track that comes right after Chiquita? No, is it? I think so. Cheesecake, and not because I like cheesecake. Just so good, I don't know what to say. You have to check this stuff out. So good, just. And I'm looking at my list here and in the number eight spot, sticking with night in the ruts, the lead track. No surprise. So three in a row from night in the ruts, because it's that good it is. It is that good, it's a just a tremendous album. Uh, so you got you. Just you have to check it out.

Speaker 1:

All right, number six in the number six position, we are going to go back to my favorite album from Aerosmith, the Toys in the Attic album, and we are going with Adam's Apple. So good, I'm sorry. Wait, wait, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Time, sorry, time out, time out, time out. I skipped number seven, didn't I? Yeah, I did. I skipped number seven, went from eight to six. It's taking the glasses off and putting them back on and all that kind of thing.

Speaker 1:

So let's, let's go back to number seven, also from the Toys in the Attic album. So it's not a not a shock, but it's Uncle Salty, great song, just a slower song, kind of groovy, kind of a dark song too. Yeah, kind of a dark song, but another one. Like I said, listening to the Toys in the Attic album, these songs just really hooked me right away and I guess it's just why it's my favorite song in the catalog, I mean my favorite album in the catalog. So Uncle Salty's at number seven, and then, of course no shocker, because I already announced it at number six is Adam's Apple, and I just always thought that was such a great song too. Just I mean, and I think those two songs are back to back on side one of the album, really really, really good. You got to check those out.

Speaker 1:

Then let's go to the number five position. We're cracking the top five. Number five that would also be from Toys in the Attic and that is no More, no More. A great song in the live set as well, great song, and that's why it's at number five, because it's great, so good. Number four, number four from the Rock's album Sick as a Dog so good, so good. Sick as a dog, so good, so good. And I'm gonna go back to the live bootleg album, where that version is dynamite. It's fantastic. Um, number three. Number three Can't remember if I mentioned it early on, but if I did, I'm going to repeat myself.

Speaker 1:

Second, I heard this song. I was just, I was hooked, hooked, and the live version is every bit as good, if not better, than the studio version. And that is Lord of the Thighs. I don't think it was the 12 year old in me, you know. Oh, lord of the Thighs and thinking like that. I don't know, maybe a little bit, because I was 12, right, but it's just such a cool, cool groove. I believe Brad Whitford came up with that riff at the beginning of it. But it's just no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, and I'm not going to do that for 30 seconds. But and then it just bam kicks in and it's so good, just so good. And again, like I said, the live version off of live bootleg kills it, kills it. Okay. So my number two song number two, number two song Number two, number two is the title track from Draw the Line.

Speaker 1:

So, draw the Line, such a kick-ass song, just kick-ass. It's heavy. That bass line, ah, the bass line is so good, it's so good. You know, again, like with Night in the Ruts, draw the line kind of gets some heat from folks, but it's good, it is good and that is a wonderful song and that's why I'm doing it too, because it's that good. So what's number one? I don't have a snare drum in here to give you a drum roll. I don't have any music to play, nothing like that. It's not going to happen. But hang on, got a tickle right here. All right, let's get rid of that.

Speaker 1:

Number one is the title track from my favorite album in the catalog Toys in the Attic album in the catalog, toys in the Attic. Enough said it is so cool and it starts off the album. So it's the title track, it's the lead track and my favorite track, all of those and it just. It's funny. You just like you drop the needle on the album and it just boom. It just kicks you right in the face right to start, right at the start, and it's so good, it's fast, it chugs, but it chugs at a fast pace. It's really really good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know what else to say about that song. It's just it's great. And I mean, I was. I was listening to it um, like way early this morning, like in the wee hours of the morning, cause I was at work and I was like man, this song is. I just kept saying this song is so good, it is so good and it has to be number one on the list. I didn't even know, excuse me, I didn't even know I was going to do a top 20.

Speaker 1:

So I started putting this stuff together and going through my notes and everything. And I thought, ah, you know, I would throw in a top 20 here. But when I listed all the songs that I that you know I would consider for a top 20, my pen went straight to Toys in the Attic and put a one right next to it before anything else. So that's just, yeah, that's it, that is it. And for me the song doesn't get played a ton on the radio, certainly not a rock radio. So there's no burnout factor at all for me on that one. Yeah. So I'm loving it, love it, love it for all those reasons, anyway. So look, that's my top 20.

Speaker 1:

If you want, let me run it down really fast. I'm not going to give you all that hollabaloo like I did earlier. Number 20, hollabaloo like I did earlier. Number 20, dream on. Number 19,. Sweet emotion. Number 18, walk this way. Number 17, mia. Number 16, remember walking in the sand. Number 15, back in the saddle.

Speaker 1:

Write this stuff down. Write it down real quick, damn. Write it down real quick. Number 14, nobody's fault. Number 13, kings and queens. Number 12, round and round and not the version from rat. Number 11, last child. Number 10, chiquita. Number nine cheesecake. Number eight no surprise. Number seven Uncle Salty. Number six Cheesecake. Number eight no Surprise. Number seven Uncle Salty. Number six Adam's Apple and the top five Number five no More, no More. Number four Sick as a Dog. Number three Lord of the Thighs. Number two Draw the Line. And number one Toys in the Attic. Great, great stuff.

Speaker 1:

All I want to say to you folks is I appreciate you being here. Thanks for sticking with me. Let's have some fun with this. Give me your list, leave it in the comments. Let's get it done, all right.

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