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The Ben Maynard Program
EP. 91 MUSICAL MEMORIES: OUR TOP 5 ALBUMS FROM 1985!
1985 was a musical watershed moment—a year when rock transformed, pop perfected its formula, and metal forged its future. In this nostalgia-fueled episode, host Ben Maynard welcomes returning guest Shannon Cox (creator of the Talking Rock Fan podcast) and longtime friend Spaz to share their personal top five albums from this pivotal year.
The conversation reveals surprising depth as each participant brings remarkably different selections to the table. From mainstream commercial juggernauts like Phil Collins' "No Jacket Required" and Bryan Adams' "Reckless" to cult favorites like W.A.S.P.'s "The Last Command" and Aldo Nova's "Twitch," the trio celebrates both radio staples and deep cuts. Their enthusiasm is infectious as they dive into production details, chart performances, and personal memories connected to each album.
What makes this episode special isn't just the music discussed, but the stories behind them. Shannon recalls listening to George Thorogood with his older brother in the garage, Ben shares his excitement at meeting Loverboy frontman Mike Reno, and Spaz connects iconic songs to their appearances in classic 80s films. Their shared passion bridges generational divides, showing how music from four decades ago continues to resonate today.
Whether you lived through 1985 or are discovering its musical treasures for the first time, this episode offers a perfect blend of nostalgia, music appreciation, and friendship. By the end, you'll likely find yourself searching streaming services to rediscover these albums—and wondering which five from 1985 would make your own list.
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Speaker 2:All right, your elbows are going out of style. Yeah Well, they already are All right.
Speaker 1:So we're going to get started. We're going to have some fun tonight and before we get into the fun, I'm going to bring in a little somebody right here returning to the program, and I'm going to fix the camera right now. Let's zoom out a little bit at you and me. Spaz right there, hey, hey that's shannon, that's shannon cox.
Speaker 1:How you doing, shannon? I am doing great, you all right, listen. Uh, move your camera just a little bit. Can you move it just a little to your left so you center yourself a little more? All right, I know I want to see the albums too. I see, I see montrose, the, uh, the debut album. I see metallica, master of puppets. I see alice in chains. Wow, uh, looks like david lee roth crazy from the. I can't even see any of that. I see Megadeth I don't know which one that one is, and the light is kind of there's a glare on that one at the top right.
Speaker 3:That's the Blues Brothers soundtrack.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, all right.
Speaker 1:You've done some work in the studio since last we had you on.
Speaker 3:Trying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it's good, it's good. Hey look, I guess if you're gonna have a music podcast, you may as well have some music posted up in the studio, right? Sure, yeah, yeah. So everyone remember and if you don't remember, you didn't see the episode. Of course, there's Shannon Cox right there and Shannon is like the main man on talking rock fan.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm just like a sometimes guy, all right, shannon's a full time guy, but uh, yeah, he's getting this podcast up and, uh, up and running, just kind of starting to starting to get some things together to launch it. And let me put hang on, let me do this. I want to put the banner up so everyone knows what we're doing tonight. There we go, yeah, so Shannon's got his podcast. He's getting up and going. He's working on some things he put, put out a it's funny, it's on YouTube, so I call it a video, but it's all audio. There's no video to it, but he put out a little introduction to everyone. So go check it out.
Speaker 1:It's Talking Rock Fan, that's it. That's it. That's the name of the podcast, wherever it's going to stream on YouTube all that good stuff. Talking rock fan. And if you missed the episode when shannon was on, dudes like his, his, his, his musical taste. He has so much more breath on his musical likings and his tastes than I do and I I know we're to get into it tonight, maybe even more than you. Oh and, by the way, shannon, yeah, my buddy Spaz.
Speaker 2:Good to meet you, shannon Spaz. Shannon, good to meet you, yeah, so anyway.
Speaker 1:so what we're going to? Um, we each have come up with our top five albums from 1985. Now, before you start screaming and hollering, everyone, it's not the top five best albums, it is our top five. So our favorite five albums from 1985.
Speaker 2:Boy, it's been a long day and my lips are sticking together and everything you need to drink some water dude, I know.
Speaker 1:So what really brought it on, honestly, is I did an episode I don't know, a month ago, six weeks ago, something like that and it was basically just celebrating the year 1985. These albums have turned 40 this year and I covered 15 albums I could have done 100, but I probably would still be going recording that episode today and so I just randomly picked 15 albums and went with it, and I know it's great stuff, but none of you out there know anything about it, Cause I think about 10 people have seen it. So. So this is kind of a play on that, where the three of us are going to bring to you our top five so we'll drive some more. Maybe with this you'll get our lists and then maybe it'll also drive you to go watch the episode of these albums turning 40. So anyway, that was a mouthful, Shannon.
Speaker 3:Hey, it's all right, had to be said, we're here to celebrate 1985.
Speaker 1:Had to be said.
Speaker 2:Hold on.
Speaker 1:Let me do something here. Let me do this Turn the volume up a little bit. Can you turn your volume up? Just a skosh, you were coming in a little bit low on your volume. It's there somewhere. So, okay, now I know when you and I excuse me I know when you and I spoke earlier Shannon. I know when you and I spoke earlier, shannon, that I pretty much guaranteed that. What's that?
Speaker 3:Test your. No, I was just agreeing with you. Oh, there you go.
Speaker 1:No, that we. I can hear you better now. That's good, yeah. So I know, when you and I spoke earlier, earlier I said that your list was probably going to be very different from mine and spaz's very different. So then I tell spaz what I told you and he was like uh, dude, I guarantee that you don't have one album on my list. So that's actually really cool, that's's really good. Yeah. What is strokes man? What does 1985 mean to you, shannon Jeez?
Speaker 3:it was a big time of change. I had just moved, I mean I was turning 10 at the time, I don't know man A lot of change. I had just discovered rock, like the year before in 84. Right, I mean, I was a big country head and I actually got a couple of country-ish albums on my list and stuff. Maybe it might surprise you, it may not All right, but yeah, it's just different. It was a transition and I think it shows in the list okay, okay, cool.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm gonna ask the same question of you, spaz, I mean to you well, I was 21 years old at the time.
Speaker 2:I couldn't tell you this guy high school trying to find different things to do, and this music I was listening to at that time will illustrate this list.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right, you were 21. I'm 20.
Speaker 2:Were you still in college? Technically, yes, okay, I only did three years, so technically, yes, alright.
Speaker 1:For me. So, technically, yes, okay, all right, all right, um, and you know, like for me, uh, you know when I did that, when I did that, that episode, uh, a little while back, you know, celebrating 40 years of these albums, you know those the out of the 15 I was thinking to myself, man, what a huge album. I remember that album. I remember the songs on that album and there was just such good music. It didn't matter if it was in the rock space or you know, new, it's funny, new Wave was kind of phasing out. New Wave had a very I want to want to say very short life, uh, span, um, and even, like the new wave, what's?
Speaker 3:that it still has some representation in 85, though.
Speaker 2:Yes, it did it did, but right and it does.
Speaker 1:It was. It was getting less and less, though, and and even some of those bands were starting to transition a little bit and maybe change their style to kind of I don't know, maybe keep up with what was happening, but I think that 85 was a really good year for music and I'm looking forward to our list. So, without further ado, why don't we just get going? How's that? Because you got three guys here that can talk, and so there's going to be plenty of that, so let's just get everybody going. By the way, shannon, did you happen to bring CD covers or album covers with you? I did not. Okay, all right, I'm the only one that did. But don't fret people, it's okay. If you're not familiar with something that comes up, jot it down and go look it up. I mean, I'm sure you have your phone with you, right, so you can always look it up, but I did just because I'm a visual guy anyway. So I have. I have the CD covers of my five and they're under the mouse pad here.
Speaker 2:And on my show log.
Speaker 1:I didn't write them down because I didn't want Spaz to see. I wanted to keep it all I'll tell you a little secret.
Speaker 2:Why wouldn't it be a surprise?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I have an honorable mention for 85.
Speaker 1:I've got a couple of those myself, yeah, so that's cool, but this one doesn't fit the criteria. Oh, all right then.
Speaker 3:All right?
Speaker 1:Well, I'm looking forward to it. Oh, because it's an EP, right? Because?
Speaker 2:it's an EP. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:You know what? Okay, okay, wait a minute Now. How many songs were on that EP? Was it five songs, was it?
Speaker 3:four or five yeah okay, so it was like a gigolo calgary girls um I've totally just we're crazy from the heat right yeah, crazy from the heat. Gigolo was actually two songs, that track is. He blended them together okay uh, and I forget the last one okay yeah, there was five.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, I don, I don't own that one, but okay, all right, there's an honorable mention right there. Do you have an honorable mention for 1985? I?
Speaker 2:wasn't asked to bring one. No, no, you don't have to bring one. You told me to do a list of five. I did a list of five.
Speaker 1:You didn't say honorable mention.
Speaker 2:So I didn't do an honorable mention.
Speaker 1:Okay, sorry, anyway. Well, you know, I have a couple of them and actually I didn't plan on it, it's just when I was thinking about it, I'm going and the five, my top five, didn't really take long for me to come up with, but then I thought oh, there's this one too, it's going to have to be an honorable mention. Oh my gosh, there's this one too, it's going to have to be an honorable mention. Oh my gosh, there's this one here. It's going to have to be an honorable mention, you know.
Speaker 3:So there's a couple. I have 19 on a list and I'm going to pick five of them.
Speaker 1:I didn't even go that far Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1:No, so one of my honorable mentions and I suppose if the list was, you know, top seven, it would be on it is is REO Speedwagon's Wheels Are Turning. That that was a real good album and had a couple of real big hits on it, of course, with Can't Fight this Feeling. And then there's I Can't Fight this Feeling, and then there's I Don't Want to Know. And you know, what's funny is that album has a ballad on there too, and I can't remember which one it was, but really good tracks on there. I should have just grabbed the album cover. I was thinking about it. Why didn't I just grab it? But I don't want to say it was a comeback album, because they had High Infidelity in 80, slash 81. And then in 82, they released Good Trouble, and Good Trouble did okay, but it wasn't gangbusters like High, high infidelity, and then they took a little bit of time and put together wheels are turning and it was like they're right back in the driver's seat again, you know. So that was, uh, it was a really strong album, uh. So it was really kind of one of my honorable mentions. So, uh, you want to get right into it.
Speaker 1:Everyone's nodding. There's audio to this. Okay, so we have to talk there is sorry.
Speaker 2:Yes, you better yes.
Speaker 3:I was actually Googling the album so I could see the album covering all the tracks and I was trying to remember what your uh ballad was it wasn't.
Speaker 1:It wasn't one wait, it wasn't one lonely night. I don't think was it.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you the list here I had okay, give me that track listing I do want to know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, through the window, live every moment gotta feel oh, that was a good one too. Yeah, that it wasn't. Uh, it wasn't a radio single, but that was a good one. Wheels are turning. Yeah, one lonely night, that's okay. Yeah, yeah, it is one lonely night, all right, okay.
Speaker 3:Then there's rock and roll star can't fight this feeling, yep and break his spell okay, and and't Fight this Feeling.
Speaker 1:There were actually two videos for that. There was a. There was a. What's that buzzing sound? There's a buzzing sound like there's a vibrator on the desk or something. Maybe it's my fan, oh okay, all right. Yeah, it sounded cool, though I probably. Maybe it's my fan, oh okay, alright it sounded cool, though. Yeah, it sounded like a guitar no, I thought it sounded more like the Goodyear Blimp was coming in, or something anyway, yeah, there were two videos, for can't fight this feeling.
Speaker 1:one was a. I guess, if you want to call it a not performance a scripted one. And then there was a performance one where they were in the studio, and that one's funny because right at the end, at the end, the camera just focuses right in on Kevin. They're in the studio and he's singing into the microphone and you see dribble right out the corner of his mouth on the video. I had to look that up Only you would notice that.
Speaker 2:Go look it up. Yes, only you would notice that, only you. All right, okay, so yes, only you would notice that Only you.
Speaker 1:All, right, okay, so you know what, shannon, you're over there and we're over here, so why don't you start this thing off?
Speaker 3:Sure, like I said, I've got some weird ones. We were talking about New Wave. I'll go with the Smiths' Meet His Murder. Yeah, what was that Meet?
Speaker 1:what Smith's meat is murder. Yeah, I almost thought what was that meat? What Meat is murder by the Smiths? Ah what are some of the tracks off of that one?
Speaker 3:Oh sorry, my dog's also trying to get my attention. There's the professor. I can't remember what else we got on there. I got to look it up myself. I was like, oh yeah, the cover is iconic. I wish I had it on my case, but it's.
Speaker 1:I'm going to look it up. It's got my iPad, yep.
Speaker 2:I got my iPad on my desk.
Speaker 3:The headmaster ritual is good what she said. Well, I wonder.
Speaker 2:Okay, let's see meet his murder, and nowhere fast, it's been a long time so those songs I've heard, uh yeah long time, let's look it up, can't rock out here. Time, let's see, boom yeah the yeah.
Speaker 3:The album covers iconic Cause it says oh yeah, yeah, hold your with. The meat is murder in his helmet? Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yep, yep.
Speaker 3:Yep, yep.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 3:It's like his uh anti protest or his protest.
Speaker 1:Yeah, during the war. Yep, that's okay. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. All right, cool. So what was it about that album that stands out for you?
Speaker 3:Well, actually I was just turned on to it by a friend of mine. His name was Doug. I actually was texting him before I came on. He goes. You cannot forget the Smiths. I'm like oh man, I didn't realize it was 85. I thought it was older.
Speaker 3:to be honest with you, Just because of the picture it's like Vietnam. I was thinking probably 80 at the earliest, but he was like oh, you can't forget the Smiths Iconic band, always great writing. May not have been radio darlings, but they had messages and they got them across and I just figured I'd throw it in for him. My friend doug, he just that's like his favorite album of all time.
Speaker 1:Well then, doug better watch the episode. I told him he better so we'll see yeah, yeah, certainly not radio darlings, but um, but big in that punk, new wave, wave, post-punk genre. So for us here in Southern California we had a radio station, K-Rock that was right up, you know that was. I mean that's, you know. Smiths were right up their alley. Yeah, they'd be playing that stuff all day.
Speaker 3:Our local alternative station plays them sometimes here yeah same thing here.
Speaker 1:What about you, Spaz?
Speaker 2:Why are you picking on?
Speaker 1:me, I'm not picking on you, because I'm older. Yeah, because you're the oldest one in the room. I just let the guests go first.
Speaker 2:Okay, my fifth album is John Cougar Mellencamp's Scarecrow.
Speaker 1:Oh, so good.
Speaker 2:Great one, great one, lonely All Night and what else I put down here.
Speaker 3:Was he still Cougar Mellencamp or just Mellencamp? Then the man was always transitioning.
Speaker 1:That was his first album that he lost the Cougar. Yeah, and actually I talked about that on the episode. That was one of the. That was one of the albums I featured on that. Uh, uh, albums turning 40 was was scarecrow dynamite album you know, what I'm not even gonna say.
Speaker 1:It's an honorable mention for me now. But, um, yeah, no killer album, and and it was, it was you know, all due to the fact that you know he always hated cougar. He always hated john cougar, yeah, and, and it was, you know, his management that made him do that. But one. When american fool did what it did, he started to get a little bit more say-so in his career. He brought back Mellencamp for the next album, which was uh-huh, but he had to keep that Cougar. Then that album tore it up.
Speaker 2:That's it.
Speaker 1:I'm done with Cougar now. Now, he had all the say-so. Then it was John Mellencamp. Yeah, he held all the cards he's the icon here in.
Speaker 1:Indiana. You know what, speaking of which and yes, he is I would have bet my house Fortunately I didn't, and nobody asked me to I would have bet my house that, when the Super Bowl came to Indianapolis, that he was going to play the halftime show. I thought for sure he was going to. And then, of course, whoever it was I don't even remember the announcement, but it was Madonna, I believe yeah, whatever pop act, or something like that. It was just terrible. The last good halftime show was the who.
Speaker 2:Was it? Yeah, like that it was just, yeah, terrible.
Speaker 1:The last good halftime show was the who was it yeah, hey, what's wrong with the who? No, that was the last good halftime show, let's say, because that was in 09. That was when the saints played the uh, uh, uh, the uh colts I stopped watching the halftime show.
Speaker 2:It was a simple anyway, oh but.
Speaker 1:But anyway, okay, yeah. So John Cougar with Scarecrow, that's awesome dude, that's such a good album.
Speaker 2:It's a dynamite. I like it. Such a good album.
Speaker 1:All right Now I hope that you guys kind of based your lists kind of the same way. I did Look in 1985, well, look to this day. When I take a shining to an album, a CD, whatever you want to, you know, can't even say album because I don't have a turntable, just vinyl, no turntable, nothing to play them on. But when I take a shining to something, I wear that stuff out, I play it over and over and over, and this is stuff that I was playing over and over and over in 1985 and wearing it out. So that's that's, and not not to say that it isn't, because this stuff is still dynamite in my, uh, in my opinion. So all right. So I'm going to start with number five and um, yeah, here we go well today, right today, today, right there, kiss asylum Killer album.
Speaker 1:A lot of people say it's one of the best, if not the best of the non-makeup era. I don't agree, but I still like it. They were transitioning a little bit. This became a little more, um, you know, in 1983 when they first took the makeup off, they released lick it up and then they backed it up with animal eyes. Both of those albums were were real heavy leaning into the metal world a little bit, some of it even thrashy like. On each album there was, you know, one, at least one tune that you could. You could say, oh, that's got some thrash in it, um, uh, but but, um, kiss asylum, it. It went more. It went back more towards, uh, the 70s sound. It's, it's, it's an 80s sound, but it's, you know, it's got a lot of 70s type stuff in it. So you can hear that, but it'll never be complete 70s with eric carr on the drum kit, you know.
Speaker 3:But, um, yeah, yeah, there is a transition to the hard rock scene. At the time that was their transition and their look changed.
Speaker 1:They kind of started glamming it up a little bit here with this and the album is wonderful. Kiss's look is terrible, gene Simmons. When they were out touring this album, gene Simmons looked like Phyllis Diller. It just was terrible. But the album's great. I love it to pieces. It's still just so strong. Honestly, it's got one of the strongest opening tracks on a Kiss album period and that's King of the Mountain. It's killer Didn't do much in the way of top 40 stuff.
Speaker 1:It was more service to rock radio. But there was this little thing, this little channel called MTV and they had some big videos from this album on MTV. They had Tears Are Falling, which was the biggest song on the album. They had All Night, which is a great song. That's actually a Zeppelin-esque song. And then, oh, I'm sorry, no, no, no, all Night isn't Radar for Love, is I'm sorry? No, no, all night isn't radar for love, is I'm sorry? My, my mistake. And then they had, uh, who wants to be lonely? I think those are the videos off of the album. So that is my number five kiss asylum, good stuff, very interesting, all right. So that leads us right back to you, shannon.
Speaker 3:Yes, I'm going to go with George Thorogood and the Destroyers as Maverick. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I drink alone.
Speaker 3:I drink alone baby. You can't do that and just picture George in a bar and just drinking, looking pissed off. Yeah, I think all of this music.
Speaker 2:I look at all of this music that way George in a bar and just drinking, looking pissed off, I think all of this music I look at all of this music that way Bad to the bone.
Speaker 1:I think if you are not drinking some hard liquor when listening to George Thorogood, then something's wrong. That is the ultimate hard liquor. Drinking music is George Thorogood, then something's wrong. That is the ultimate hard liquor drinking music is George Thorogood.
Speaker 2:That's a good album too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a good one. But yeah, that was the highlight of that album was I Drink Alone?
Speaker 3:It was. It mainly sticks out in my mind because of memories with my brother. He was a big Thorogood fan, he was like eight years older than me. Um, going out to the garage watching him, he was a big you know motorhead or whatever. He would play with the engines all day long. George thorogood was always cranking bad to the bone or something. Yeah, um, and I just remember fond, I mean that's where I had my first beer and I just remember fond I mean that's where I had my first beer. Was out in the garage with him to that song At 10 years old, at 10 years old.
Speaker 2:I was about ready to say 10. All right, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you started driving at 11, right.
Speaker 3:I think I did at 12, actually I started driving at 12, yes.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was close.
Speaker 2:I was nowhere near close yeah, all right, cool.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, I forgot to write it down. Uh see, george thorough and what was the name of the album? Again, maverick, maverick. Okay, all right, cool, you're up spaz tears for fears, songs songs from the big chair. Oh man, everybody wants to rule the world. Everybody wants to and shout and head over heels a few others too, but big, big songs, big videos, especially out here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and it's so funny, it's that you brought up tears for fears, songs from the big chair. Because you know well, I, I posted, I posted a video on Tik TOK promoting tonight's episode, and Tess, my daughter, comments. She didn't I, I, I guess in the video I'd said something about hey, you know, comment, put your out top five here, or whatever it was. So Tess didn't give me a top five, but the one thing that she said was songs from the big chair.
Speaker 2:So it's and they had. They're a good concert band, by the way, too, because I saw them in concert. I don't know 15 years ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, good concert band and, and and shannon test is 24, so she's a no, she's a baby and she's calling out that stuff. That's good, that's good. Let's see, I'm writing them down right here Tears.
Speaker 3:I have two memories about that album. It's weird. Do you remember the Val Kilmer movie Real Genius?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:They play that at the end of the movie and it's just so iconic. Yeah, when he fills a house full of popcorn that he lights on fire from a space laser he's outside and there's popcorn flying all over and the villain comes up and is looking devastated at his home and you hear tears of fears kicking in during the credits. I didn't even realize.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't realize. Yeah, yeah. Now I have to go back and see the movie now Great.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's such a great movie. Yeah, it'd be nice to go back and watch that movie anyway, being that Val is no longer with us and he just passed recently. Just go back and watch a Val Kilmer movie, if you've ever seen the TV show Psych?
Speaker 3:have you ever? Seen it with James Roday.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, I've never even heard the show Psych.
Speaker 3:It's P-S-Y-C-H.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, oh, Psych okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was on USA Network for maybe nine or ten years. He does a lot of 80 centric stuff in it. I love that he has the main songwriter and guitar player from tears for fears on a couple of albums and he has the skit where this millionaire pays the guy to stay at his house and just play his music over and over again by the poolside okay and it's just fantastic okay, let me see, that's roland roland, I can't remember his last name.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, I can't remember the last name, but, um, okay, so, oh, I'm up.
Speaker 2:Right number four for me number four, four, four, four is this it this is it?
Speaker 1:so good, so so good. Well, do we have to know brian adams? Reckless so good, good album, excellent. Now, this is just an awesome album, man, um, coming off of cuts like a knife, which that, that's really the one that kind of broke. Brian adams, um you, he had been around for I don't know a couple three years prior to that and, if you're not aware, brian Adams was like writing and singing some disco type stuff in the late 70s and right into the early 80s. Stuff that you just, yeah, crazy stuff.
Speaker 3:I've never heard any of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he did a song with um what's her face.
Speaker 1:I know you're going to say cause it's on this album.
Speaker 2:Oh man, the burner Tina Turner, tina burnout, yeah, so so you know it's.
Speaker 1:It's 10 tracks. This one here, like I said, cuts like a knife, breaks Brian Adams, and this one here, it just kicks open the door. And not only are the songs great, but he had some big videos from this album as well. I mean, it opens up with One Night Love Affair that was more of a rock radio. Uh release, uh, she's only happy when she's dancing. You know deep track. And then the first, the first single released, run to you. Oh man, amazing, ah, it's just just a killer song. Um then Heaven, that's the ballad. That was a big song too, and actually Heaven was a holdover. It was on a soundtrack of a Christopher Atkins movie where he played a male stripper, like two years before this album came out. I don't remember who the ingenue In the movie was, but it was. Christopher Atkins Plays a male stripper, and Heaven was On that soundtrack.
Speaker 2:I don't even remember the movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, double check me please, no, I don't remember. Otherwise, if I'm wrong, I'll get like all kinds of hate.
Speaker 2:Starting with me.
Speaker 1:But then then we had, uh, so we had run to you. Then, heaven, then another great that. I think this was actually the second release, which was somebody. Yeah, such a cool video too it's, it's a, you know, performance video, um. And then the big, and this wasn't the biggest song at the time, but over the years it's become such an iconic and huge song for Brian, and that's Summer of 69. They play it all the time. Yeah, I mean, you know, rock Radio plays that song from Brian Adams over just about any other song in his catalog. Then you got Kids want to rock.
Speaker 1:Um, everywhere we go, the kids want to rock good one and then, yes, tremendous song, it's only love with tina turner gosh. What a just an absolute duet yeah, great song.
Speaker 1:I mean I just have to listen to that song just so I can hear, because and tina sings her, her, you know she does. She sings her rear end off. It's just such a cool song. Yeah, long gone, and then ain't gonna cry rounds it out and the sound on it. Production is great. You know brian and jim valance were a great writing duo for many years. This one's produced by Brian and Bob Clearmountain. Bob Clearmountain's a legend. Everything that Bob Clearmountain touches it's like pristine. It's so good. So that's me right there. That's number four for me. Reckless from Brian Adams.
Speaker 3:That means I'm back up.
Speaker 1:You are.
Speaker 3:Good deal. I was bringing up my track listing here to make sure I don't miss miss anything on this next album. Okay, it's kicks K I X, midnight dynamite. Oh yeah, we were just talking about them earlier.
Speaker 1:We were Dynamite. Yeah, yeah, out of Baltimore, maryland.
Speaker 3:Absolutely Well, close to the home of Boardwalk Rock going on this weekend. Yeah, that's right, there is a big yeah, yeah, go ahead. I love the song sex from the album. I don't know if you've ever heard it or not, but it's live. It's absolutely great. Whiteman gets the whole crowd just wrapped up in it. He just comes out, starts going anybody want sex?
Speaker 2:it's a way to get a crowd going and it just has a good drum beat.
Speaker 3:And he brings out one of the littlest used instruments in hard rock, the harmonica.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, he just wails on it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he just wails on it. It's just beautiful. I mean, it's raunchy though, I mean, but it's great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's got some good ones. I didn't remember Midnight Dynamite, midnight Dynamite. What are some of the Run down the track listing on that? Do you have?
Speaker 3:it Sure.
Speaker 1:Do you have it handy yeah?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I do, I have it right in front of me. Yeah, midnight Dynamite, bang, bang, bang, bang, balls of fire and walking away, cry baby like a rug, red, hot, black and blue wait is that?
Speaker 1:is that like a rug as in lies? Like a rug l-i-e lie, yeah, yeah, okay, oh, yeah right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you got to have that devil entendre in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, continue.
Speaker 3:Lay in rubber Okay. Lay in rubber is another good one. Scarlet fever and cold shower.
Speaker 1:Ah, that's a good one. Ah, cold shower is such a good one. I dig cold shower, that's a good one, I dig, I dig cold shower, that's a cold shower that works, that's not a cold shower.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cover your ears, kids um, okay.
Speaker 1:So oh, I know what I'm, I'm just jotting some stuff down. Alright, go ahead. Spaz, okay.
Speaker 2:Boingo Boingo's Dead Man's Party.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:Wow, like I said, is it on your list? No, no, I think I only know one hit.
Speaker 3:What's that? I think I only know one hit by them, so I'm interested in this.
Speaker 2:You don't know Weird Science.
Speaker 3:Oh, I know Weird Science. I know one song.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was Dead Man's Party and you got Just Another Day.
Speaker 1:It's just another day. It's just another day. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I had to listen to it. Yeah, you got to listen to it, is you?
Speaker 1:yeah, you got to do. It is weird science on there no more science is on. Oh it is okay, so there's three songs that I know. On that one, okay, all right another great 80s movie too. I was yeah, yeah, and then I was gonna say you can't, you cannot listen to dead man's party and not think of rodney dangerfield. And back to school, yeah, you know come on when he hires his frat party.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't even remember that I gotta re-watch that movie. It's been 30 years since I've seen it oh, that is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's such a classic. It is a great, that is such a classic. Uh, what was? What was last last name? What was his first name? I'm trying to remember his first name, melon's. The last name. I can't remember his first name, doggone it, but yeah we have to look that up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we should.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I'm up to number three and I talked about this one to number three and I talked about this one, um. I talked about this one, um, when I did the albums turning 40 and, as a matter of fact, I included it on the thumbnail because I love this album so much.
Speaker 1:it is just an absolutely killer album and that is play deep from the outfield I figured it'd be on your list this is their debut album and the first time I saw the video on mtv for the uh, the lead track, say it isn't so. I was just, I was done, blown away. I was hooked. It is so fabulous. And when you talk about a clean sound, the production on this is just. Yeah, I don't even know how to describe it, but the sound on the production of this is so clean. And it's a trio.
Speaker 1:You know, tony Lewis on lead vocals and bass, john Spinks on lead guitar and vocals and alan jackman on drums and in john spinks. John spinks, he wrote all the lyrics to all their songs for the, the entirety of the band. But he he's saying he would sing lead on a like one track per album, but tony was the one that did it. You'll know the song well. I'll run down the track, say it isn't so, which is actually my favorite song and I think that is such a go-to song. But the one that stands out that everyone knows is your love. Yeah, everyone knows that's josie's on a vacation far away. Sounds familiar.
Speaker 2:Talk it over yeah, you beat oh yeah, I recognize that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, that's their biggest song, I don't think it's their best to say this and so just pills oh, it's so good um did you see them concert. I did, I did see them, I saw them. Uh, I saw them in 1989 when they were on their voices of babylon tour. They opened up for mike and the mechanics that was a good show. I stood right in the front friggin row of the orchestra pit. I was like it was from was almost from me to you from the stage.
Speaker 2:It was awesome. You scared the band. That's what happened. I almost had.
Speaker 3:Mike and the Mechanics on my list.
Speaker 2:That was a great album.
Speaker 3:Their debut album was 85. It was the big song was Silent Running that was a great album.
Speaker 1:Their debut album was 85. Yeah, it was, it was. What was it? The big song was Silent Running, but I'm trying to remember the name of the album Was it just Mike and the Mechanics. I think it was just self-titled.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was self-titled, yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 1:There was another song, a big song, bigger than the first one, I think.
Speaker 3:It was their second. One had the living years on it.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes.
Speaker 3:That's a song close to my heart, with me and my father.
Speaker 1:I mean, oh my God, tearjerker, Absolutely. And if that doesn't bring up, stir up some emotions in you, you're completely heartless, you have all I need is a miracle all I need is a miracle I just because it's a good song and that you know what's funny is they had two pauls in the band that were co-lead singers.
Speaker 1:You have paul young and not the. Every time you go away paul young, and then they have paul carrick from squeeze and they would trade off lead vocals. Paul carrick did living years and uh, paul, uh, paul young did all I need is a miracle and he did some other. He did some other stuff off of the second. I don't remember all the songs he's saying, but yeah, no, that's yeah.
Speaker 3:Can you guys still hear me, yeah, oh, you're just fine okay good, my microphone, my headset, died, so I'm talking through the computer, so hopefully it's okay, you're more clearer.
Speaker 1:Nope, actually great, really good good okay, mike and the mechanics. I'm writing that down. That was so that. That was that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, writing that down that was so good that wasn't a big finalist either but that was a good album that didn't make my list, but man, it was up there. Like I said, I had 19 to pick from and that was one of them. I'm like gosh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had to cross that out. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I know we got on Mike and the Mechanics and I'm talking about the outfield and the mechanics. I'm talking about the outfield. Well, I've taken all the time to go through the track listing, but you know it's check it out, people. I'm telling you, listen, you should be writing these just like I'm writing these down, because what is so cool is, right now, none of us have repeated anything. We all have something different. I think that's awesome.
Speaker 2:Not for long there's got to be something.
Speaker 1:Let's see I I'm writing some stuff down here, um, just stuff that's coming to my head anyway. So, yeah, I'll feel, play deep. Great, it's my number three. All right, you're up again, shannon all right, it was.
Speaker 3:The next two are very easy for me. The first one is wasp, the last command oh that was that was their second release.
Speaker 3:Second release I had picked up a, a bend tape with a little you know cut out of it and it had uh blind in texas on it and it was just so tongue-in-cheek and funny but it was rip-roaring. I don't know how Blackie Lawless is just so in everybody's face at this point. Oh yeah, he tackles the Great Depression in a song called Fistful of Diamonds. He attacks credit card companies. He has a song called Ball Crusher. He wrote it by his ex-girlfriend, jack Action, about action movies, widowmaker. I don't know if you guys have heard any of this stuff or not, but Widowmaker is slow but heavy. It almost grinds.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:He just talks about being the hand of doom, like bringing death to everyone gotcha um, no major up flares with the band yet, but right after this album they started swishing out members, unfortunately that's when all the fractures came in right yeah, yeah, I mean there was a lot of, uh, drugs and alcohol in, if you've ever seen the movie the Decline of Civilization 2.
Speaker 1:Chris Holmes, yeah, chris Holmes, in the pool, in the pool with his mom.
Speaker 3:Yeah, his mom was at the side of the pool watching him, just pour vodka all over himself.
Speaker 1:I mean, and he was just guzzling it, oh my gosh, yeah. Yeah, he was tore up. Oh my gosh, yeah, but it did, did. Uh, did steve riley leave the band after that album? Yes, yes, he did, and that's when he went to la guns right. Okay, all gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 2:I got to hear that. Okay, you are up, mr Spaz, my second. Yeah, number two it's Heart.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah. That was the self-titled right, yeah, what about Love and Never these dreams? I mean, yeah, five or six songs.
Speaker 1:I had done that and I talked, I talked about this one too, and that would right be a uh, you know, a an honorable mention for me on this list, and it was a comeback album for, for heart, you know, they were, I wouldn't say they were down and out, but they, they just they were, uh, their success was waning a little bit, let's put it that way. And uh, so they signed a new record deal with Capitol records and then, um, the the record company, or manager is the record company says, hey, we want you to start working with some outside writers, which Anne and Nancy had never done before, but they weren't crazy about it. But then they completely changed their look. They had a total mid-80s look, it was all. The whole band went through that too. They were almost kind of, it was almost kind of a colonial look because there was a lot of thrill and lace and that kind of stuff. But they did, they almost looked like uh, uh, you know, like I say, it was a colonial look.
Speaker 3:But have you ever heard of the band britney fox? Yes, yeah, yeah yeah, have you ever their very first album cover? They almost look like heart. I got them confused in the record store like dean davidson uh teased his hair, I mean it was the everything. It was crazy he had the long sleeves. Look, they looked colonial. Yeah, they caught some flack for looking like heart right, right, I mean yeah.
Speaker 1:And anna nancy, their hair was like this hot, yeah oh yeah but they were. They were completely sexed up and they were. You know, what's funny is that that's their biggest album. That's the biggest album their catalog great, great songs. I don't care who wrote them, great songs and the band did a great job delivering those songs. You know, what about love? Awesome song, never, I think that's a great song.
Speaker 3:Was that still the original band? Or had they switched out members?
Speaker 1:oh no, that was uh. No, that wasn't the original band. I think denny carmasi was, uh was on drums. I think on that one I have to go back and look. Um, I probably have it in my notes here. Um, yeah, I, I don't remember all. It was howard, howard lease it was he. Was he in the band at that? I can't remember. Let me. Let me look really quick. Yeah, this is so great, isn't it people?
Speaker 3:Absolutely. Let's see, oh, and they followed that up with Bad Animals, didn't they?
Speaker 1:They did, which, again, they worked with a lot of outside writers. On that one, here's my stuff. Did I put it in here?
Speaker 3:There it is. They always get those two albums mixed up the self-titled and Bad Animals because they both had a lot of hits.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bad Animals had Alone, didn't it? Who Will you Run To? Alone was the big hit on it. Alone is just an absolute. I mean, come on, come on. Oh geez, that song is killer.
Speaker 2:I have the 45 singles in that album.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so good. No I don't have notes. I have my notes from that show but I didn't write down who was in the band. But I did write down. That album reached number one and it is their biggest selling album over 6 million copies Ain't nothing to sneeze at. No, absolutely not. Killer, killer, killer stuff man. Good job dude, I don't play.
Speaker 1:I don't come on your show and give you calls, no you came to play is what you did, man, just a pin. You you came to play is what you did, man, just the pin you're bringing it home at the end of the day
Speaker 1:you know you're next, geez, all right. So we're up to my number two, right? Yes, number two, sir, number two, all right, look, everyone's gonna be like what. But I told you, and this isn't my favorite album from this artist, but these are my top five from 1985, because I was just wearing these cassettes out and that's Aldo Nova's third album, twitch, and this is the album that Aldo for many years hated. Hated this album because you know he had.
Speaker 1:He had a lot of success with the debut album sold over 2 million copies. He had the one big hit with Fantasy. Then in 83, the following year, he releases uh, subject aldo nova, and I think it's a tremendous album. I think it's a great follow-up to the, to the debut album, um, but didn't have any top 40 hits. He had some radio play, rock radio play with monkey on your back, um, I don't know if there was anything else off of that. That got some rock radio play but didn't have really any success with that. And so now he's going on album number three and the people at Sony, which that was his record company, they are like, well, you know what you need to work with with writers on this one and so kind of like Hart's thing, and so he did. He worked with some outside writers. I think it's a really good album.
Speaker 1:But I will say this from the moment I put this cassette, I still remember I was at Pointy Hills Mall, that's where I picked it up was at the. I was at Pointy Hills mall, that's where I picked it up at the Sam Goody and I popped the cassette into my to my car stereo and the, the lead track, which was the, the lead single. Uh, tonight you lift me up. Um, when it played I was like okay, and I let it play through and I was like okay, all right, it didn't have that hard driving, you know, crunch to it, like Aldo's known for.
Speaker 1:This one has a little more pop to it, it's a little more polished, but there's some really good stuff on it. Tonight you lift me up, that's the lead single Rumors of you. I dig the song, I really dig the song. There's a Fiona Apple no, not Fiona Apple, I'm sorry, because that's a totally different artist. Fiona apple, I'm sorry, because that's, that's totally different artist fiona. Um, she has a co-lead vocal on that track. Then surrender your heart, a real soft song, but it's, it's a good one. I like it. Uh, if looks could kill, not the one from heart because they have a track on on the heart album.
Speaker 1:If looks could kill, on the same album yeah and um, I think that one actually has.
Speaker 1:michael bolton worked on this one and michael bolton did some background vocals on this one, on, I think, two songs. I think lay your love on me for sure and maybe if If Looks Could Kill. Was that before he transitioned? That was yes, that was just before he had made his transition. I have that debut solo album after the band that he was in with Bruce Kulik in 83. In with bruce kulik in in 83, the same time that aldo released um.
Speaker 1:Subject michael bolton released his self-titled debut album, which is more of a rocker album. It's more in the vein of like a bon jovi, yeah, and released right around the same time. Bon jovi released their debut album as well. But and John and Aldo actually go back to you know they had a friendship at one time. You know Aldo worked with John early on and then later John worked with Aldo, but Michael Bolton was. He worked with Aldo on this one a little bit before he went completely adult, contemporary.
Speaker 1:It's good, I wore it out. It is pop, it is pop-ish, I should say. That's why Aldo doesn't like it, because he didn't have as much control on it. Aldo did everything previous. He took a lot of time off. You know previous Um, and so he took a lot of time off and he didn't record for six years. He let his, he, he let his record contract run out is what he did. And then he put out the next album, which was blood on the bricks, and by that time our kind of music nobody listened to anymore because the radio stations were already transitioning to all the other crap that came out in late late 91, 92.
Speaker 1:So uh, and that's a great album. Blood on the bricks, but anyway. So yes, aldo nova twitch, that's my number two.
Speaker 2:Sorry people, sorry, not sorry hey, they're a good band to watch too. Well, Aldo is.
Speaker 1:Aldo has been hitting the road the last couple of years. Uh got a great band and I've seen him. I've seen him two times in the last two years. So if he comes around, uh, if he comes around again this year, I will be right there front and center. So all good stuff. Anyways, you're up. I don't have a drum roll or anything like that.
Speaker 3:Number one baby Number one. Number one it's kind of been beaten a lot by people. But Iron Maiden's live after death. I had to cross that one out. Fellas it is. But Iron Maiden's live after death, it is. Has one of the most iconic intros from Winston Churchill, leading into aces high. Okay, I mean it was almost like a greatest hits out. Yeah, I mean, even though it was so early in their career, so many I mean it had run to the hills on it. Number of the beast, the trooper, I believe. Rhyme of the ancient Mariners on it. There's another one. It's really big that's on there Running free. A lot of their early big stuff is on there and it they just had switched over to Nico nico mcbrain and bruce wickinson were still fairly new and they wanted to show them off.
Speaker 3:And bruce just can scream his head off still to this day, but he was really showing off his chops then yeah, well, wasn't live after death, wasn't that?
Speaker 1:that was okay. So that was 85, so that had came. That had come after their fourth album. That was. That was basically like the peace of mind tour, wasn't it? I thought it was power slave.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, okay, then okay yeah, I believe it's the world enslavement tour I remember right.
Speaker 1:I don't know that, I don't know the the discography they have a lot of albums.
Speaker 1:They do, they do and do, and you know that one thing you can say about Iron Maiden I said this, I don't know, a year or so ago on a particular episode. I don't know what I was talking about, but the one thing you can say about Iron Maiden it's, like you know, they'll play arenas here in the United States and they'll sell them all out. They don't need an opening act or anything like that. They have no trouble selling tickets. But outside of the United States they'll play stadiums. It's funny, it's kind of a toss-up who's the biggest band in rock and roll worldwide? Is it Iron Maiden? Is it Metallica? And then you got to think about even like U2. You know You're talking to all these bands. Look, one band that's wrapping up their tour now ACDC. These bands don't need any opening acts at all. They don't need an opening act to sell tickets. It's better than the Rose.
Speaker 2:Bowl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they're playing stadiums.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not arenas.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so anyway, I think.
Speaker 3:ACDC even had an album this year. Was it Fly on the Wall or Flick of the Switch? I want to say Fly on the Wall.
Speaker 1:It was. Yeah, I mean, look, I think it was Fly on the Wall. I think it was Because I on the wall, I had it. I think it was because, I think, flick of the switch came a couple years later. Yeah, flying the wall. Almost put on my list. They're flying the wall. Yeah, yeah, flying the wall was 85. Um, okay, so and and you?
Speaker 3:left the live album for your number one I. It's still in rotation in my home. Wow, I listen to it all the time.
Speaker 1:Well, see, then that's a testament of how it sits with you, absolutely how it hits you. I love it. Yeah, okay, so you are up.
Speaker 2:Well, one of my famous drummers, Bill Collins. I knew it was going to be on your list. No Jack it required. Yeah, Fantastic. I knew it was going to be on your list. No jacket required. Yeah, I knew.
Speaker 1:That was the one album I knew for sure you were going to have on your list.
Speaker 2:Hey, I had good songs on there. You know, Matt could sing, Matt could play drums and sing Absolutely. That's what he did in Genesis same thing.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, speaking of Bill Collins, you know it, just you know, genesis is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and of course, phil Collins is a member of Genesis. But I honestly think that Phil Collins his solo career much, much bigger, sold many, many more albums than Genesis, him being in Genesis. And to me, phil Collins is a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame snub. I think you and I talked about that one too.
Speaker 3:There's a solo artist.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Yeah, I mean no, Jacket Required is certainly his biggest album. In fact I want to say it's sold like 25 million copies. That was one that was on that 40th anniversary show that I did.
Speaker 2:I have a CD. I have each of the CDs. I have a cassette one, and I have a vinyl, all three of them, yeah 25 million worldwide.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's quite a bit Crazy, but it was like his third solo album and, of course, the first one face value you know with in the air tonight. Yeah, great song um isn't that the one?
Speaker 1:um, I don't care, no more. I think that was on there too. You know some big songs not a lot of big radio play at the time, but it's like that album has really aged well. Oh yeah, and then it was hello, I must be going. I think it was the next one, and you know. And then, man, they just exploded with no jacket required, that you couldn't go anywhere and not hear ph Collins' song.
Speaker 2:Studio. They did it at 33 and a half months Studio.
Speaker 1:Studio. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3:Does anybody even know what that means? Is it a woman's name? Is it?
Speaker 1:what. I think I had heard something about it. It fit the line of the song and it's supposed to, I guess, refer to a woman, but it's not really a name, it's just it fit. It was something along those lines. But but uh, remember, the first single was one more night big song, and then I think susudio was the second single that was released, a big song, big video, both videos.
Speaker 2:They did a dance album for that, for Susudio.
Speaker 1:I have it Three and a half.
Speaker 2:Great. It's like 10 minutes long, I think.
Speaker 1:And then that's got Don't Lose my Number. It's got Take Me Home. That was the big epic song, big MTV video. For that one I Don't Pay One More Night. What other songs are on there One More Night? I said that one. That was the first song because that was the first single Giving me the stink eye over here. Don't Lose my Number. Yeah, my number. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you get that one?
Speaker 2:yeah okay, take me home.
Speaker 1:Yeah, one more night okay, yeah, I don't remember all that. Yeah, but huge, huge album, yeah, that was about. I knew that was going to be on your list, I knew it a lot, you knew.
Speaker 3:I tell you what I remember about phil Collins at that time is you couldn't turn on a movie without his music being used in the soundtrack.
Speaker 2:Absolutely right, everything Absolutely right. You know what?
Speaker 1:In the 80s and even into the early 90s, probably the first half of the 90s. Phil Collins was just like Kenny Loggins.
Speaker 3:I mean yeah, kenny.
Speaker 1:Loggins, you know with the movie soundtrack guy. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3:I've never watched it, but I know he even starred in a movie, I believe it was called Buster.
Speaker 2:It was about a. I have heard of it. I've heard of Buster.
Speaker 3:He did the soundtrack for it too, and I want to say he did oh, you Can't Hurry Love, uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was on the soundtrack. Oh yeah, he's right that was off of.
Speaker 1:Hello, I Must.
Speaker 2:Be Going. Yes, he's right, he must have repurposed it.
Speaker 1:Then what year was that movie I'm checking? Okay, I love the dead air.
Speaker 3:Then he did the Tarzan soundtrack for Disney.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's correct. That was huge.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sure did. Yeah, that was the animated one, right?
Speaker 3:Yes, was it Son of man? Was the big song from that one. I'm trying to remember what it was Then he had. Against All Odds. Yes, it was the was it son of man. What's?
Speaker 1:the big song from that one. I'm trying to remember what what it was. Then he had um against all odds.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's from the movie, though, isn't?
Speaker 1:it. Yeah, yeah, that was that was. I think that was 84. So I think that was before he did no jacket required. That was just a giant song, it was.
Speaker 3:I remember the two people making out on the beach to his music.
Speaker 1:That's all I remember about it Jeff Bridges and Kelly LeBrock. Oh yeah, kelly LeBrock, weird science. Yes, kelly LeBrock Loved her. Yeah, yeah. I didn't realize that was just bridges hey, you need to look this one up.
Speaker 3:Okay, it's a burt reynolds movie it's from like 1980.
Speaker 2:Sharky's machine yeah oh, I know it okay. Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 1:And kelly lebrock's in that kelly lebrock is in that one yeah.
Speaker 3:Such a good movie. Burt Reynolds was a big mainstay in our home.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Phil Collins was with Buster.
Speaker 1:Buster yeah, did you get the year on it yet?
Speaker 2:I'm looking 1988.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, Okay, yeah. Actually no Jacket Required. That was going to be one of my honorable mentions. It was yeah.
Speaker 2:It got mentioned. It was mentioned honorably.
Speaker 1:Heart would have been an honorable mention. There's one. Before I get to my number one there's another honorable mention and I know I'm leaving a couple of them off and I'm glad you came up with Scarecrow. What a tremendous album, but it was the first album that I bought on CD, the very first one when I got a brand new CD player for home. Yeah, and that was Dire Straits Brothers in. Arms oh yeah, man man, oh man. What a first off, what a just a killer album.
Speaker 2:It was just very good.
Speaker 1:Killer album. And you know Mark Knopfler, just, I mean obviously amongst musicians he gets the adulation and the credit that he deserves, but not not amongst you know regular, you know music lovers and music, you know concert goers or anything like that. But mark knopfler, what a just a tremendous guitar player oh yeah, calm down, this is a great album but walk of life is a fantastic song.
Speaker 3:That's probably my favorite track on the whole thing.
Speaker 1:Obviously the big one. And on the album, I love the album version of Money for Nothing. I love that album version. I love the story behind the lyrics and being in the appliance store and all that crap, but just a great story.
Speaker 1:So much so. So much so that, um, after money for nothing had come out and you hear the story of how mark knopfler puts the lyrics of this song together, I start flipping through the tv guide looking for different things to piece together my own song. That just meant nothing. I did, I was flipping through TV guide, you can do that and I like the album version of Money for Nothing because it's like 10 minutes long.
Speaker 3:So there's no editing in it or anything.
Speaker 1:It's just great. It's like the beginning. You get the whole thing.
Speaker 2:The beginning is very awesome, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, but it's a great riff. And then, yeah, you get that drumming.
Speaker 1:Oh man Great song, but I think my favorite song on that album is so Far Away. I think that's the lead track on the album. I can't hear you there, you go, there we go. Yep, now I can hear you. Uh, yeah, it's a just a slow song and uh, it's so good, so good. Yeah, great album, all right, all right, all right. Let me get to my number one. Again. Wore this sucker out. Probably bought the cassette the day it came out. That is Loverboy, loving every minute of it. Their fourth release.
Speaker 2:I figured it would make your list.
Speaker 1:You knew I was going to have the Loverboy in here. Yes, you know what I was afraid. I didn't want make your list. You knew I was going to have the lover boy in here. Yes, you know what I was afraid and I didn't want to say anything. I was afraid you were going to throw Foreigner Agent Provocator in there. Because I thought about it for a second. But I remembered it was released in December of 84. That's right. So I was like no, no, no, no, no, no no, nope, it'll be 85.
Speaker 1:Nope, missed it by a month but, yeah, Loving Every Minute of it. It's a good album. It's not one of Loverboy's best. It's got a lot of good stuff, I mean, in my estimation, okay, obviously it's got the title track, loving Every Minute of it, which is still in the set to this day Steal the Thunder which is a pretty good song. It's a call out to all these young bands that are trying to come up now that lover boy is established. They're on their fourth album and they're like oh, you young punks, you know, trying to steal our thunder, you know that kind of thing, um, oh, and this is their answer.
Speaker 1:This next one is the answer to Working for the Weekend. And it's Friday night, and I dig that song. The lyrics go Friday, the hook is Friday night, friday night, just got paid. No sleep till Monday. Friday night, friday night, who cares? It's only money, you know. And Too Much, too Soon. Just a good album track. Friday night, friday night, who cares? It's only money, you know. Um, and too much, too soon. Just a good album track. Lead a double life another good album track. Then another hit song. Well, it wasn't really a radio hit. They had a. They they did a video. This one was a co-write with Brian Adams and Jim balance, and that's it's called dangerous Uhous. That was an MTV video, and then oh, I skipped this Could Be the Night. That was the second hit off of the album. That was the ballad. That was probably a bigger song than Loving Every Minute of it. Destination, heartbreak and then Bullet in the Chamber.
Speaker 2:It's all good stuff.
Speaker 1:It's all good stuff. It's a great album. It's all good stuff. Like I said in my ranking of Loverboy albums, it's not my number one, but that's my number one for 1985 because I wore that sucker out.
Speaker 2:You should tell Shannon more about the fact that you actually met the band.
Speaker 1:He's met the band. Well, okay, so, shannon, so you know, spaz and I we've, we've, we've known each other since I think we were like 11, he was like 11, I was 10, but we didn't start hanging out till we were like 14. Okay, yeah and um, so we've known each other for a really long time and we've gone to a lot of shows together and even when we didn't go together, we ended up at the same shows.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And Lover boy was playing. This was back in 2011, and lover boy was playing at what was called the LA spring fair. There's, there's the LA, there's the LA County fair, which used to be in September of every year, and at about two years ago, they moved it to May. It's going on right now and, um, so at that time in 2011, they thought let's have this spring fair, we'll have the fair two times. Well, they had in a different location and then, uh, on a smaller scale, but we'll, we'll get things ramped up with the spring fair, and so they had a lot of bands out there. Rick Springfield was one of them and lover boy was one, and so I thought I'm, I'm going to see lover boy. It was.
Speaker 1:It was at this old raceway. It was called Irwindale Irwindale speedway, yeah, and which they tore down yeah, unfortunately, but but it's a great spot to put an outdoor music venue. We have no outdoor music venues in our market anymore. The greatest one, irvine Meadows, closed down in 2016. They bulldozed it and put condos on it, and that thing was there for years and just the legendary accent came in and out of that place. I've heard of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, irvine Meadows. Oh, so good. And then they had transitioned to a basically it was a portable amphitheater and it was called Five Points Amphitheater and we actually saw Foreigner and Loverboy a couple of years ago there and it was one of the last shows they played there because they ended up tearing that place down so they could put condos on the property. So there's no outdoor venues right now in our area and in Irwindale. It'd be the perfect spot for an amphitheater. It'd be perfect.
Speaker 2:Well, the conditions were terrible that day too, and they still wouldn't perform. The wind was blowing, it was really cold, it was raining cold, and they were out there playing still.
Speaker 1:So I bought a. Yeah, let me get back to the story. So I bought the ticket to go see Loverboy, but they had a meet and greet, so I bought the meet and greet. Well, let me back up. Like three weeks prior to the show, mike Reno, the lead singer of Loverboy. He was co-hosting on a morning radio show in Vancouver, where he's from.
Speaker 1:I don't remember how I found out about it, but that was the beginning stages when you could stream radio stations on the internet from everywhere. So, you know, I thought, well, I gotta check it out. I love mike. So, um, I'm checking it out, I'm listening to it. He's, he's on and he's doing a pretty good job. He's not like I said, he's just kind of a co-host. And, um, he starts yeah, he starts talking about them releasing the band, releasing a couple of singles and and something else I think they talked about doing a doing this show, and so that's how I got the tickets.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm on the radio station's website and it's like station's website and it's like contact the, the hosts of the morning show. So I click it and I send mike an email. I'm like, ah, so I email him. I think I still have the emails in my email still I can't delete them. And, uh, so I email him, basically tell him I'm a fan, blah blah, blah, whatever it is. And he gets back to me and so then they play this, they debut this one single. A few days later I email him. Sounds really good, classic Loverboy, blah blah, blah. You know you guys are going to be thinking about putting out another album. And he says you know, we really like recording songs, but nobody buys our music anymore, so probably not, you know, whatever. And so I was like hey, I'm going to see you in a couple of weeks. All right, I'll see you.
Speaker 1:So now let's fast forward to the night of concert. We do the meet and greet and I take my CD for the band to sign, and it's the CD from 2007 called Just Getting Started, and I knew nobody would have it. So I thought I'm going to take this one so they can sign it. And I don't remember how many people were in this meet and greet, but everybody was on one side of the room except me. I was on this side of the room, don't know why, but I just stood on that side of the room. And then in comes the band. Four guys walked that way. Mike Reno walked straight over to me, he extends and said, hey, how you doing? I said, hey, I'm Ben Nice to meet you. He's like Ben.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, I know you yeah so we just start talking and he just seemed like a really really cool guy, really nice guy. We talked for I don't know five minutes maybe. And then they took photos with some horrible and it's 2011, so what do you expect Some horrible cell phone camera and then emailed them to everybody. So I still have the photo, but I'm telling you right now it is some of the it's. It's so grainy, it's terrible, it looks like it looks like it was shot in the seventies. It's so bad, but yeah, so so that was cool. And then we go down to our seats and I go and sit down and who's right there?
Speaker 2:Spaz and wife nancy, you're right there what are you guys doing? We're cold, we're free. Come on, get the show started now. Come on, we gotta hurry out of here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right but it was a great show. They still performed. They performed their butts off. It was the same. Yeah, it was a great show. It was fun. Yes, that was my time meeting lover boy. But, anyway, yeah so that's our top five people you know, and I know we could talk forever, but you know Shannon's three hours ahead of us so it's been pretty late for him and I want to keep him up forever. It's after 11 o'clock.
Speaker 2:It's only 11.30. He's at 2 o'clock. Oh no, I'm kidding. He's at 2 o'clock. Oh no, he's, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm kidding, he's up at all hours. Yeah, this has been fun, shannon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it has been. I've enjoyed it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, I'm glad we got to do it again. This was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:This was cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was, it was fun.
Speaker 1:yeah, I know he's talking about, so he liked to deal with people we're talking about yeah, that's right, but uh, look, before we close everything out, people uh remember there's a new podcast coming up. Okay, there's. If you want to say it's already debuted, it kind of sort of has debuted. Shannon and I we did an episode here right on the Ben Maynard program debuting, uh, talking rock fan um, and then, yeah, well, check out our episode because it's really good, because basically, I mean, everybody knows, everybody knows me, but I'm introducing Shannon to the audience and yeah, we just had some just just good conversation. I know that dude that's right.
Speaker 1:So, uh, so, uh. So check that out, folks, Okay, Uh, and you'll get a little background on Shannon and uh. And then Shannon, he dropped, um, he dropped an audio, um, it's five and a half minutes. That's all it is right now. People, he dropped five and a half minutes on YouTube under Talking Rock Fan. It's got its own channel and all that good stuff, so get on there and subscribe. He doesn't have the video portion worked out just yet, but I will say this I told Shannon earlier brand new podcast got great artwork. That show right there. That podcast there has more production value after five and a half minutes than this does after 91 episodes.
Speaker 1:so so shannon's doing a bang up job over there, but uh, yeah, learning as I go yeah, look people, if you like talking, if you like music and you like talking music or you like listening to knuckleheads like us talk music, you know, check this stuff out. You can check out this podcast here. Check out the episode again, talking Rock Fan with Shannon, and I Check that one out. It's only, I don't know, five or six weeks old, maybe not even that, maybe four weeks, I think, and um, and then and then check out talking rock fan on YouTube. Subscribe to that channel. It's look, it's honestly, it's Shannon's podcast. He did give me a shout out. He was like oh, ben Maynard, my cohost, blah blah, blah. Well, he did give me a shout out. He was like oh, ben Maynard, my co-host, blah, blah, blah. Well, it's Shannon's podcast.
Speaker 1:I'm going to jump on whenever I can and whenever Shannon says hey, you got some time to do this and if I got time I'll jump aboard and whatever he wants to talk about we'll talk about, but it's his vehicle and I want you guys to get out there and support it. Thank you, absolutely, man. Absolutely. This is look. This is just a ball. So I know we could go all night, but we don't. We shouldn't For everyone else's sake, all right, so I'm going to wrap this up. Yeah, just remind you all that this program is available wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, it's available on all the streaming services. Just search the Ben Maynard program. Boom, there it is. Please subscribe to it. Okay, because you get notifications every time that a new episode drops, just like all the other podcasts that you listen to.
Speaker 1:But if you can't resist this one here, or maybe that one, oh no, wait, that one way over there way over there and then maybe some of this too, and you're enjoying this fun and frivolity here on YouTube, then please subscribe to the channel, tell 10,000 of your family and friends, please. Okay, give me a thumbs up and leave a comment. Look, put your top five in the comments. Yeah, put your top five in the comments. Come on, people.
Speaker 2:We all like ours.
Speaker 3:I'm sure we've missed some a bunch.
Speaker 1:Oh, come on, Come on, you got to be kidding me.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, definitely we missed a ton, but that's just the stuff that I was wearing out. But and then, last but not least, follow me on Instagram simply Ben Maynard program, or an even better places on Tik TOK, the Ben Maynard program. So, look, we're done. Stick around, shannon, we'll see you next time. People, this is the Ben Maynard Program. Tell a friend.