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EP. 104 From No-Show to Big Show: Sheriff Chad Bianco on Leadership, Crime, and a Blueprint to Rebuild California

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The show opened on an empty chair and an honest apology—and then turned into one of our most substantive conversations yet. Sheriff Chad Bianco, longtime Riverside County law enforcement leader and 2026 California gubernatorial candidate, sat down with us to map out practical, fast-acting ways to tackle the problems Californians feel every day: $4+ gas, brazen theft, encampments, soaring insurance risk from fires, and schools that feel more political than practical.

We start where wallets hurt. Bianco explains why California pays so much at the pump and lays out day-one moves: permit in-state drilling, modernize refineries, end boutique-fee games, and let supply meet demand. From there, he draws a straight line to cost of living—transport drives the price of everything—and to business retention by scrapping predatory litigation like PAGA, slashing red tape, and competing with zero-income-tax states. Public safety is his core: reopen closed prisons, restore consequences, support prosecutors who prosecute, and give communities the baseline security that lets everything else grow.

On homelessness, he pushes a treatment-first model: mandatory detox, serious mental health care, and structured reentry—backed by redirecting billions from ineffective NGOs to providers that actually deliver outcomes. We go deep on water and wildfire, too: build storage now, partner with the Army Corps of Engineers, turn on desalination, and fund Cal Fire to stop letting manageable fires become city-level disasters. He also takes on redistricting power grabs, voter trust, and a school overhaul anchored in universal vouchers and a hard line on protecting girls’ spaces in sports and locker rooms.

Whether you agree with every policy or not, the conversation is clear-eyed and packed with specifics. If you’re tired of abstract slogans and want to hear how a governor could reduce costs, raise safety, and restore basic competence, this one delivers. If it resonates, do us a favor—subscribe, leave a review, share it with a friend, and tell us in the comments: what should be fixed first?

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SPEAKER_01:

Hey there. Welcome into the Ben Maynard program. Thanks for being here. Um today was scheduled to uh to to to be a a really really important and um uh special uh program. But as you can see the chair next to me is empty. Um so I'm just gonna say this. I don't know where the disconnect was, but this um this interview or slash conversation, whatever you want to call it, was was uh was booked back in the first week of July. And um and then it was um it was locked down, confirmed on uh right at the end of August, so six weeks ago. And uh I don't know, I don't know what happened here, but my guest scheduled this morning is not here. I've been um in touch with um them as much as I can be, and uh I have got no response. So I uh I I honestly folks, listen, I I I'm always very honest and transparent with you. Um I apologize if I have made you schedule things, schedule stuff around this particular episode this morning. Um I'm every bit as disappointed as maybe some of you are. Um, I don't think anybody actually could be more disappointed than me. Um like I said, it's just the the way things go, I suppose. I was really very much looking forward to doing this. Um in my estimation, this was probably the biggest opportunity for the Ben Maynard program. And um, yeah, so this is where we are with an empty chair and and no guest. So um I don't want to keep everyone listen, I I I did, I did the best I could. I'm gonna try again. Um, but it's difficult when you can't, when you're not like when you have to go through people to uh to schedule things and you can't go directly to someone. Here, we have no budget on this program, okay? So when you want to come on this program, you talk to me, okay? And and I take care of all that. I take care of booking my own guests. Uh when people have reached out to to be on this podcast, they reach out to me, they send me emails, they send me text messages, they they they they call me, whatever it is, and I handle it that way. And um there now some of the guests that I've had outside of my friends, okay, outside of my friends or my family. Uh the other guests that I've had, I just mean I go right to that person. I go right to that person. And uh I'm not putting anything on on the sheriff's staff because his assistant uh has actually been been been wonderful through the whole process. Um she was great. She was great. Um, but unfortunately, he was out of the office the last two days, so I had no way of really kind of communicating and figuring out what was going on. Um and I just kind of had to uh cross my fingers and hope that everything was was happening that we were on schedule. So as you can see, we're not, and I greatly apologize. Honestly, it's it's quite embarrassing for me. Um, I try to consider myself to be a professional, um, and I conduct my business professionally. And um, when I come to you, my audience, and ask for your support, um, it's it's um is very disheartening when something like this happens. And I've gotten a lot of support from people uh knowing that this was scheduled and was coming up, and I appreciate each and every one of you. Um but it's uh it's what five minutes after after nine o'clock, and my guest isn't here, and I'm not gonna I'm not going to blame my guest for that. Um, like I said, I don't know where the disconnect was, but there certainly was some sort of disconnect in this, and I greatly apologize. I actually have family and friends outside downstairs on my patio, ready to go with this. So um, you know, they got up early. They came to uh, you know, they came. Oh, wait, we okay, we just got word that the sheriff is actually here. Okay, so if you guys want to hang out, if you want to hang out, then um I'm gonna go uh I'm gonna go greet the sheriff, and then we're gonna get this ball rolling. So forget me and my pity party, but the sheriff is here. So we'll find out what happened, okay? All right. So just the the screen's gonna go blank. It's gonna go blank for a minute. All right. There well, it's not gonna go blank. There's not gonna be anyone here. The studio's gonna be empty. So let me let me get let me oh wait. Wait a sec. No, he's he's here. He's here. Come come sit down. Come sit down. Good morning. Cher Bianco, thank you so much for being here. I I'm I'm actually I'm actually apologizing to my audience for for the chair being empty at nine o'clock this morning.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I apologize. I was I'll admit that I was probably doing work while I was driving and turned on the wrong freeway.

SPEAKER_01:

Maybe you were fighting crime.

SPEAKER_00:

Something like that.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, you people here live on TikTok, I'm cutting you loose. You're gonna have to go tune into YouTube, all right? So I'll see you all later. Uh no, no, let's close this and let's get out of here and let's finish. Nah, that's good. That's good right there. Listen, um everyone, Sheriff Chad Bianco, 2026 gubernatorial candidate for this fine state of California. Now, some of you might not agree with that statement as being the fine state of California, and you have every right to that opinion right now because sometimes we feel like that ourselves. Um, but you know what? This is the greatest country in the world, and California is the greatest state in the union. And I can't thank Sheriff Bianco enough for being here, for taking the time out of his schedule to come on this little old podcast. And um, we're gonna talk about some of the some of the stuff that's going on. We're gonna talk about his uh his platform and his idea for bringing this state back to prominence and putting this state back on the map where it absolutely belongs. So uh again, Sheriff Bianco, thank you so much for doing this. Absolutely, I'm happy to be here. I'm happy that you're here. I'm relieved now, too. Oh, good.

SPEAKER_00:

And I I just want to reiterate for those out there watching that may not be in California, California, we have the greatest people, we have the greatest businesses. You cannot, there is no one going to say that we don't have the greatest topography, geography. We have the best beaches, we have the best water, we have the best mountains, we have deserts, anything that you want, farming, ranching, everything in California, it's ruined by politics. And it's been ruined by politics over the last 20, 30 years.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And the the good people of California, the businesses of California, the business owners of California, the consumers of California have finally had enough of it. And and we're we're gonna take our beautiful state back and we're going to make it what it once was.

SPEAKER_01:

I I am wholly on board with that. So let me start with this, okay? Um when we get a chance, folks, um we're gonna take some of your questions and comments. Let me actually put those up so we can do that. If we if we have time, I'm gonna enlarge this. I'm doing some stuff to my screen here, people. You can't see it, but I can. And um, so we're gonna get into all that. I my my introduction to you, Sheriff, was back in March. There was a uh there was a country music festival in Eastvale, Boots in the Park. Yeah, and uh what a great show that night. Oh, so good. It really was. Brooks and Dunn closed the night. It was it was so good. But I think it was just before they took the stage. I was gonna go get a slice of pizza. I and I hear this voice from the stage and and I hear the line, we're taking back our state. And like my ears perked up, like, what is this? And I'm looking, and there's this guy wearing a cowboy hat on the stage, and I'm like, who is this guy? No, that's that's Sheriff Chad Bianco from Riverside County. I'm like, I gotta get to know that guy. Because I mean, that's music to my ears. And so there was an another festival at the end of June, and uh my wife Catherine and I, we made sure we were gonna be there. And I said, I know for sure the sheriff's gonna be here. I'm sure he's gonna have his merch stand, and I'm getting me a t-shirt, and I'm gonna go talk to the sheriff, and I'm gonna get him on this podcast. And uh, and so I went up and I bought a t-shirt, and I said to the guy in the booth, I said, by the way, where's the sheriff? And he said, Oh, he's standing right behind you, he's taking pictures. And I looked, and oh, there you are. So I said, Well, let me go get in line to take pictures. And um, so I did, I introduced myself to you, and I don't know if you recall the conversation, because look, I and I don't blame you if you don't, okay, because you meet a lot of people. But but uh I said, My name is Ben. I said, I want you on my podcast, and you're like, Okay, great. And I said, I just want you to talk about your candidacy. And you said, Well, talk to my assistant Ruth. I said, Great. And I pulled out my phone and you said, No, give it to me. And you took my phone and you put Ruth's information in my phone, and that's where it started. And Ruth is awesome, she's wonderful, she's been great, and I was nervous because she was out of the office the last two days. She's never out of the office, but but uh yeah, she told me she was gonna be out of the office. So she's like, we got to get this all wrapped up by Wednesday because I'm out of the office Thursday and Friday. So, but she's been great, and my family knows I've been a wreck this morning because um I was pacing the floor, especially once 8:30 hit. But you are here, and before we get into what it is that we're going to do, you're going to do getting this state back to where it needs to go, tell us a little bit about Sheriff Chad Bianco.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. Um, well, I mean, right off of the bat, and who I am as a person, uh, I am basically an unapologetic, God-fearing, uh, constitutional loving husband, dad, and grandpa. And music to me. Everything after that is uh is how I take care of all of those. Okay. Um, my job, I happen to be in law enforcement. I've been in law enforcement for 32 years. Uh growing up, uh growing up, I came from a very tight-knit family, uh, both sides, a very small community. I I joke all the time I had there was only 1,200 people in the town. Um, I'm guessing, you know, 300 men. And so I say I had 300 dads because no matter what I did, my dad knew by the time I got home he had already been told something that happened or that they saw me, whatever it was. So um I had a lot of supervision growing up, but most importantly, being in a small town, hardworking town, it was a mining town made up of immigrants, basically. And it was it was all about respect. It was about integrity, it was about helping others, it was about community, it was about uh your word is everything. You look somebody in the eye and you tell them something that is better than anything that you have. And uh your name is and your integrity is basically the only thing that you have and that you have control of and that you should value it. So that's how I was raised. Uh raised very athletic, very outdoorsy. Uh I love everything about sports and hunting and fishing and all of those things. Uh, but I came to California for a better life. I I came as a young kid, uh, 11 years old. I came to California to play in the Little League World Series in Santa Monica. And I absolutely fell in love with everything here. I went home, I told my parents I was moving. Uh, they said I had to wait till I was an adult. I did. And uh everyone knew that uh California was a beacon of the country. If you're from out of state and you grew up there, you look to California for that gold coast, that bright light in the sky, that that's how you make it there. You have to go to California if you're gonna make it. That's what I came here for. And uh I found everything that I was searching for. I came here, I worked hard, um, met a beautiful beauty queen, California beauty queen that we raised a great family. Uh our kids are still here. One of them's in in the military. He's he's out of state, but the rest are still here.

SPEAKER_02:

Good.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh, we've got amazing grandkids, we've got four, one on the way. And uh truthfully, that is who I am. Uh I'm I'm not a sheriff, I'm not a I'm not a cop, I'm not a uh I'm I'm a dad, I'm a husband, and uh I I want to be a good friend to everyone around me. Sure. And um with that, the whole integrity, ethics, all of that, I I'm I God put me in this spot. God put me into law enforcement. Uh I was supposed to be a major league baseball player. So was I. So was I and look what I'm doing now. And and by this time in the Hall of Fame. Yeah. And instead, uh God had different plans for me, and and this is obviously where the gifts that he gave me, this is where he wanted me. And um we're gonna make the best of it. I've been in law enforcement for 32 years. Uh I was elected sheriff in 2018, and I was elected at a time when uh when our agency was broken. Uh we were failing. Uh we were failing economically, we were failing more uh uh morale-wise. Okay. Uh we were losing between 30 and 40 deputies every two weeks. Wow. And uh when I took over, it was it was truly on the brink of failure. Uh we couldn't meet our staffing levels, we couldn't do anything. And uh it was I was elected because the employees wanted me elected. They were looking for a leader, they were looking for someone that they could trust to make the department better, that cared about them, that cared about the people we were serving. I didn't wake up and say, I want to be the sheriff. I was convinced that I had to be the sheriff by the people that that I worked with that worked for me. And uh I had to go to them and say, look, we're broke, and you got to get behind me. And we there were deputies working, and and I I this is horrible, and and we we never want this to happen. But this is the this is the the the influence that I had just because of who I was and the reputation I had. Uh, we were at a point where I was going to have to ask a city police department to contract with us to provide us service. Wow. That's wow, that is that happens nowhere. The sheriff is supposed to be doing that to cities. Exactly. And I had to go to my deputies and say, look, you gotta work with me. We're gonna make this better. But I need I can't, I don't want to make you all work, but you've got to do this. I need you to do that. You've got to do this. And there were deputies working six days a week, 16-hour days, seven days a week. Uh, we had to change that and get rid of all that and make them take days off. Uh, but they stood up because they knew what I was going to do for them, what I was going to do for the community, and they rose up and they fixed it. And in short order, we were able to bring people on board, people that left because of the environment came back. Um, that's good. At the time we were at 2020, the 2019 and 2020 when all of the crap was happening. Yeah. And the the leadership that I showed the rest of the country is truly what enabled us to rise above everyone else. We had people flocking to us from other agencies. And all of a sudden, uh, we found ourselves completely fully staffed. When I took over, we were almost 700 deputies short. Wow. And then all of a sudden we're we're fully staffed, and it's never happened in history. The the morale in our agency is fantastic. Um, I I my my belief is I'm just a deputy sheriff in a different desk. And as I rose through the ranks, it was my uh my ability and my job was to make sure that I gave the people below me the tools to provide the service that we could provide to our residents. And so that's how I believe. And uh that brings us to now. And making this decision to run for governor was not Chad Bianco waking up and saying, I want to be governor. It was everyone coming to me saying, We absolutely need you to do this. And I selfishly, I don't want to. Selfishly, I love being the sheriff. I have a perfect life. I'm toward the end of my career. Uh, I have no intention of leaving the office of sheriff for Riverside County. I love it. They love me, the county loves me, my department loves me. Uh, I got a pretty good life. And I came to the realization that somebody has to do this. Somebody, California is now in the exact same position that Riverside County Sheriff's Office was in 2018. Okay. They are looking for someone with leadership ability that they can trust, character, honesty, integrity, transparency. They they have no faith in politics and they are looking to someone to trust. And they came to me and said, That is you. You have that statewide recognition, you have that name recognition, the ability, you have the experience, and you have to do this. And eventually I realized that what I thought was then God's, oh, I wasn't supposed to be a baseball player. I was supposed to be the sheriff, and then small-mindedly, of course, and then I wake up and say, Hey, maybe that wasn't the plan after all. Yeah. And so um, we're just gonna do everything we can to make this happen. We know that California is in a time when we are starving for leadership, starving for truth, starving for honesty. And uh there has never been a person in my position, not a politician, right? I'm not a celebrity, I'm not a millionaire, I'm not a billionaire, uh, none of those things that have ruined California. Right. I am a blue-collar, hardworking family man that just wants to make life better for Californians. And we've never had that option to vote for, and that's what's resonating with voters right now.

SPEAKER_01:

So let's kind of go to this one spot and then work backwards, I guess, start getting into the topics. Um I wholly believe that you're the guy for the job, you're the man for the job. You and I are not very far apart in age, so we're from the same generation, you know, where your friends' parents had the had also had authority to put it on you if you uh if you got out of line. And then they would tell your folks about it, and then you probably would get it again. Things like that. Handshake deals, your word in a handshake deal means something. So so I hear everything you're saying. Why is it in your opinion, why do you think that that that common sense when it comes to politics in general, period, throughout the nation, but but we're speaking of California because that's where we are right now and that's where we live, and we're trying to save our state. But why is it that common sense seems to just go out the window when it comes to to to our political leadership and the voter base? They they they vote they'll complain about taxes, prices of goods, cost of living, uh crime, all those things that are incredibly important, but they continue to vote the same type of people in office.

SPEAKER_00:

It's easy, it's apathy. It's apathetic voters that don't pay attention. And I'm I'm not saying that to criticize anyone. Um the the the thing with me is what comes out of my mouth is is nothing but the truth. And sometimes you just gotta hear it. And sometimes you have to realize, and and rather than that offensiveness of of no, I'm not, I know what I'm doing, you really we really don't. And the throughout, if you look back throughout history, politics is not sexy. Politics isn't a job where you said, hey, I want to, I want to go into politics. We we don't respect our politicians. We don't we we push them aside and we say, it doesn't affect me. The president doesn't affect me, my congressman doesn't affect me. I've got a I have a house, I'm trying to pay my bills, I have a job, I gotta go to work, I gotta take my kids to school, I gotta get my kids to practice. Those are the things that affect us. And we have blinders on, and then every couple of years we have to vote. And what we find, especially, you know, it across the country, but California especially, everyone doesn't vote.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And you you get into a spot where, oh, today's voting day, I don't even know when voting day is. I know it might be November, but oh, I have to vote in June or March too.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

And and what's the difference? And and we don't really pay attention or or take a an interest in it because we have in our heads, I control myself, I control my family, I control my job, and we I just want to take care of all of my little sphere. Politics don't pay a lot. Historically, I'm gonna get into I know where you're going. Um, it's not a glamorous job. Yeah it's not uh it's not something that you can that you look at and say, I can make a very good living for my family. You you look at what politics is in Sacramento for for a young person, for a middle-aged person, for an ambitious person that wants to make things better. You're you're 25, you're 30, you're 35, you're 40. Why would you want to move, why would you want to leave your home and go to Sacramento for not very much money? You're you're away from your family for an entire week at a time. There's nothing appealing of going into politics. So we go into the jobs at home that make us good, that make us that we can pay our bills with. And unfortunately, over not five years, not 10 years, over 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70 years, the people that have got into politics are the people that are using politics for their own benefit. Right. Right. And that's what we where we have come to. We are never electing people of character, of integrity. We never care about whether or not they have the ability to lead people of a leadership uh position. We just we we look and is it a you don't even know who you're voting for, but you get your ballot and you and and it's I'm a Democrat, so I only vote for Democrats. Yeah. And there is there is something very, very dangerous about our current position, especially in the Democrat world, because we're we're we are controlled 100% by Democrats in this state.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

100%. And there is something very dangerous that people are so apathetic and uninformed when they get that ballot now in the mail, which is a completely other different story that we have to fix once I'm elected. But if if Charles Manson had a D next to his name, they wouldn't even know they were voting for Charles Manson. They would just check that D, and then we would have Charles Manson as the governor of our state because no one's paying attention. That's where we've come to a point in California where we're finally rising up, and where it was is it's in the last five years. It COVID did it.

SPEAKER_01:

I I completely agree with you on that. We look, I was, I've always considered myself, I'm a I've been a registered Republican since I was 18 years old and can register to vote. And but I haven't always voted that way because I vote with who I I voted who I felt was gonna, you know, be the better person for the job. However, you know, when you and I were growing up, Democrats and Republicans weren't far apart. It was mostly like, okay, Democrats love to raise taxes and they hate fighting wars, and Republicans love defending the country and they like lower taxes, you know, and and yeah, there was some other stuff, but that was primarily what it was. And now the Democrat, and you and you can talk to your neighbor who was a registered Democrat and would vote Democrat, you know, years ago. But it's gone so far one way where the the Democrat Party has been infiltrated by far leftists, socialists, uh dare I say communists almost, that that are really almost putting a stranglehold on that party and running that party. You know, the I don't want to call them moderates because I think all Democrats are loony anyway, but but but they they've really got a foothold in that party. And and it doesn't take a lot to notice that if you are of common sense and sound mind, folks. It's common sense and rational thinking. And all you have to do is look around you. And trust me, when they say, when they say don't believe your lying eyes, believe your lying eyes because your lying eyes are telling you the truth.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I mean, there's there's so much that we that we learned when we were kids growing up. I mean, that, you know, yes, that you you you have to we we gave away the ability and we forgot about the ability to use critical thinking skills and common sense. And we've moved, we allowed ourselves, we were manipulated, but we are allowed ourselves to go into uh being controlled by our emotions. Democrats are completely controlled by emotion. There's no common sense, there's no reason, there's no critical thinking skills, it's all emotional. And that's where you're talking about you can't even talk to anybody anymore. That's because emotion. It you're when you it this is psychological fact. When you're in your emotional side of your brain, there is no reasoning and thinking skills. Right. When you are in the emotional side of your brain of hate, of fear, of fight or flight, those types of things, you don't think straight. That's why, that's why an animal that's completely afraid of something turns and runs off a cliff because they weren't looking at the cliff, because they were just going away. They're emotional, they're not thinking anymore. Right. And that's where we found ourselves. And it's it's unfortunate. Um, but I I get in trouble a little bit sometimes because I say that uh in general terms of all Democrats. And it's not, but the half of the Democrats in Sacramento are absolutely fanatical activists. When I said before that it wasn't appealing to be in government, it wasn't appealing to be in government if you were a really good person and you just wanted to make your family better. You went for those jobs that made your life better, that you could make money in, that you could support your family. Right. Activists decades ago decided that they had to get into these political positions so they could control everything that was happening. So they could work their agenda, right? Absolutely. Yeah. So we no longer have a government that works for Californians. Yeah. We have a government system that is set up currently, completely run by Democrats. And I hate to, I hope there's Democrats out there watching, and I hope I hope you're listening. California politics, California right now in this election is indefensible. The Democrats have absolutely nothing to point to to say that they have done to make Californians' lives better. Because their their socialistic, their activist agenda is for a tiny few people, and they have forgotten about the rest of California. They're not working for Californians. And that's the problem that we have here. is we've allowed those people to get into these positions, not knowing. We didn't do it knowingly. It's just those were the people that were going into it. And then recently now you're finding people standing up that are like, man, I'm giving up my business. I'm giving up my um, you know, I'm comfortable now and my kids are grown. I'm gonna run for office because it's broken. I mean, we I can go to Sacramento now and I can do those things. And we're finding that in the last five years things are changing and things are turning around because people want our government working for California again instead of those special interests. And we do have good Democrats in Sacramento. But here's the problem we don't elect leaders.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

So we're electing Democrats that may be good people, but they got into government that is completely run by the lunatic left and they're not strong enough leaders to overpower them. There are more normal Democrats in Sacramento than there are lunatic left. Okay. But the lunatic left led by our governor are completely controlling and running governor government. They control the money they control the votes they control everything that happens. Money's important because if you if you get elected and you go to Sacramento and you want money for your constituents or you want bills passed for your constituents you got to go along with the program. You go along with what the leadership tells you to go along with and those activist leaders are not doing it for California. So that's where that's the position that we're in. That's what I'm I have to offer is yes I'm a conservative Republican have been my entire life. I am fiscally responsible I don't spend more money than I make I don't believe government should spend more money than than they have and I don't believe government should just keep taking more money from all of us. And that's going to be how I operate California to make our lives better not for all of us to make California government bigger yeah no we don't need any bigger government.

SPEAKER_01:

All right so let's I hope you're all paying attention I had to you guys can't see it at home but the sheriff and I can I have to keep shrinking my screen my my comments and stuff are supposed to be popping up when I enlarge the screen and they're not so I'm kind of having to place play with stuff here. I can't even see what's going on. I see your comments there and I'm gonna get to some stuff okay just but give me a minute all right it's my show um okay so let's just get let's start getting into some of these topics here we're gonna fix California and you're all gonna hear it. Good good I'll I'll I'll preface it by saying um I got a little excited and then I got a little nervous on Thursday you were on uh um you were on Andrew Wilkow's show WillCow Majority I listen to Andrew Wilkow every day and I hear you in the 11 o'clock hour and uh I'm like wait a minute that's my guy okay he's coming on my show you know you you can't have him before me but but um I was I was a little disappointed that your segment was cut short but I was also happy about it because then I got it all for myself here. Very good but but you did a great job and I loved it. I loved what you had to say on on on WillCow. Okay so first thing if you're if you're watching anywhere else in the world or anywhere else in the country understand this in California we pay the highest price for gas and we have the highest gas tax and I think we have two taxes on on on fuel in in California not only that but you have fees they we said that you could no longer raise our taxes on gas so they just changed the name and now they just call it a fee.

SPEAKER_00:

It's a regulatory fee.

SPEAKER_01:

There you go. Yeah so okay um and of course our president who was elected a year ago said hey we're gonna lower gas prices blah blah blah and he did that because if you look everywhere else around the nation I just got a friend of mine he posted a picture on his Facebook page yesterday he lives in Minnesota sorry um$2.73 for gas and we're paying over$4 and I believe it's completely on purpose um because of our governor and his radical ways.

SPEAKER_00:

It's an activist agenda.

SPEAKER_01:

And so let's speak about the price of gas the taxes the fees all that good stuff and how we can get it back down to where this is easy us Californians it's absolutely easy.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay let's talk about it fact of California Kern County has more oil than Texas. Okay absolute fact another fact of California California is the most populous state in the country 40 million people nearly 40 million people and we obviously because of that we use more oil slash gas than anyone sure 80% of the oil that we use is imported mostly from other countries but also from from some other states when oil is pumped from the ground those oil companies pay a fee to the state of California for for doing that the oil that is imported from the other states and the other countries do not so we are gaining nothing from 80% import. If we did what Texas does if we did what Alaska does and we drilled that oil and we sold that oil and we used that oil ourselves refined it into the gasoline ourselves Texas is the best at it and they have the lowest price gas in the country. I was just in Texas I pay two dollars and twenty one cents a gallon wow that would be nice the reason why our gas is so high is because you have an activist agenda who will not allow us to drill for oil. Right they they have this uh the this this false Pollyanna rainbows and unicorn view of reality that they have just decided that they hate fossil fuels I mean even though that's not what it is but that's big macro resources I mean that that well that's what it is but they call it the fossil fuel thing and everything it's oil, gas, coal, all of those things that that's what they refer it to as right and they they use a fear factor of they'll show you a picture of China and say this is what coal does the the air in Mexico and this is what pollution does. But we don't have that here. We don't you there is there's a beautiful um the you can't make this up unless you see it and you see pictures of it but Utah uh in southern Utah there is a massive coal-fired electrical plant that used to supply electricity to California and it's completely run by coal there is no pollution there is nothing coming out of that factory out of that plant because of the technology that goes into it has eliminated it all. So there's nothing that comes out of that plant other than water vapor from the cooling that that has to happen during the process and the the entire valley is is beautiful beautiful skies beautiful landscape but that's the reality of coal production of coal-fired power plants that is relatively cheap and unbelievably efficient and good solar is not wind is not no it's this idea that we have to this is all money this is all fake it's all been made up it's this green agenda is fake um i i look at it this way I believe not in my lifetime but I believe in probably my kids or my grandkids' lifetime we will not have we will still have them because they'll be antiques just like we have now but we will have something else other than gasoline powered automobiles it may be electric it may be something else right but innovation and human design is going to make that happen exactly like we transitioned from horse and buggy to automobile it was it was invention it was innovation that did it it wasn't the government regulations yeah yeah so what we know now is that the gas and oil industry in California is 100% controlled by regulation. Regulations can be signed away at the stroke of a pen. Day one, I remove the regulations on our oil industry to pump gas. We give them the permits that they need a government permit. It's like we're done we're done with all of this we are going to make Californians' lives better. We are removing those restrictions we will allow the fuel to be pumped they will pay all of that revenue into the state willingly they want to do it. They have to do it that's right that's how it works. Yeah gas will immediately go down just because of those fees that we take away that are built in there from regulation. And then and it'll go down anywhere from if you believe Newsom at 65 cents, that's an absolute lie. If you believe the economists that really look into it it's closer to$2, maybe even over$2 that we could eliminate immediately. But then when you start pumping our own gas when you start refining it when you move the regulation on the refinery to allow them to improve the refineries to rebuild the refineries to repair the refineries and build more refineries now we've stimulated everything and now we're down to the lowest price gasoline in the country. And here's the thing gasoline is the number one driver of cost of living oh come on of course because everything everything we do is transportation. Yes goods and services transported is the number one driver of the cost of living and we are the worst highest price gas highest price cost of living in the country all because of regulation. So that ends on day one we get rid of that we allow our oil companies are our we allow the oil to be brought from the ground here because California has more oil than anywhere. Kern County has more oil than Texas. With me as your governor we will be oil independent we will not only have enough for California we will generate revenue by selling it to other places and we will make sure that our that the they do things right it's not a free for all it's not you're don't be don't be misled by the by the politicians that that are getting paid by these other solar and win and wind and all of this other garbage to to force us how is the government forcing you to put solar on your home increasing the price of your home and then calling it affordable housing right I mean and then and then tell me one person that putting solar on your home made the cost of your electricity go down. It didn't it's a scam they they come in and they they tell you how much are you paying for electricity oh well you could pay the same thing but for solar that it's it's a scam. The government is making it happen and we're going to take it away innovation will make it work. California uh businesses California uh entrepreneurs will make things work and make things happen the government isn't going to tell us to happen so that was a long answer and I'll make them shorter but oil is important because oil is the cost the oil is the driver of making things more expensive here.

SPEAKER_01:

It's a driver of the economy yes and to what you said transportation.

SPEAKER_00:

Doesn't matter what goods are being moved around they're either going by truck by air by sea okay and those all use fuel absolutely or by train yeah or by train yes forgot the train I don't even want to talk about the train I can talk about we're never talking about that train again okay good okay good um so um I have to I have to emphasize you've got to actually realize how easy this is going to be I am one of I am I am the highest elected official one of the one of the most influential government officials in Riverside County one of the biggest counties in the state yes I know how government works not only how it works I know what's successful and I know what's a failure. I'm also influential in Sacramento I'm a whether whether anyone wants to admit it or believe it or not because of what's happened in the last five years with with what I have done and who I am and the role that I have I am influential in Sacramento. I know what's broken. I know who's breaking it and I know how easy it can be fixed.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

This isn't like I'm an outsider coming in and saying yeah put me in there and I'll bring the people on board with me to you know that we can make sure that we make this happen. This is going to be easy government is not rocket science. You don't go to medical school or government school or whatever it is to learn how to operate a government it's complete common sense and it's been spelled out in our government documents from the time we were formed. It's common sense and it's reason to make sure that it happens working for us. The regulations are ruining our state combined with taxes we must eliminate the regulations we must lower taxes and we must become business friendly again because businesses is the lifeblood of any economy and of any town, city or state we have to make our business owners be able to actually run their businesses work their businesses expand their businesses bring more businesses from other states we will be the most business friendly state in the country I'm gonna tell you something that's absolutely disgusting it's not disgusting that's a bad word it is very it should be very embarrassing. It should be um uh very alarming to everyone but two nights ago we had the govern the governor of Oklahoma in Southern California meeting with business owners and in that business meeting dinner he is taking 18 major businesses from California to Oklahoma people don't want to leave California they don't want their businesses to leave California they are being forced out of California right and there are actually other states that are saying we need to make our state better our people's lives better and we need to bring those businesses in and you have our state who's saying we don't even want you to own a business we don't we want you to just keep giving your profits to government and we're going to force you out of business and they are they're forcing them out of business and they're forcing them to other states I will ensure that we are bringing businesses into our state not allowing them to to look elsewhere and be be wooed away from us.

SPEAKER_01:

Let me see what I got here let me let me look at something here is the okay okay I see one I see one question here is is the redirecting if the redirecting bill passes will you be able to repeal it yes we I number one I don't think it's going to pass um if it even passes it's going to be repealed it is completely unconstitutional you have a ironically Prop 50 is the redistricting I said redirecting that's redistricting i i I have to look across the room people okay and my glasses are just readers prop 50 we absolutely must vote no yes this is more than a decade ago years ago almost 20 years ago Californians voted to take districting out of the hands of corrupt politicians and now corrupt politicians led by our corrupt the most corrupt governor in history are saying screw you Californians we are taking it out of your hands and we're putting it back in the hands of the corrupt politicians and we have to realize anyway California is already gerrymandered they've already made it so all of our districts are it it it's almost it makes it very very difficult for a Republican to win in any of our districts right and now they're making it almost impossible.

SPEAKER_00:

So it's unconstitutional in the constitution it says you can't do that. We voted to say you can't do that. They're going to now they're in Prop 50 when you read it they've they've found that once people just read what's on their ballot 15% of the people that were not going to vote for it change their mind because they're being lied to in what's presented in the in the the description on the ballot. So it's basically this is what we have to realize there is about a in California i the rest of this the country is is far better represented but in in just in California more than 60% of the state has no confidence in government we are currently and so and and predominantly they'll tell you we're predominantly a Democrat state democrat registration anyway. Yes 60% have no confidence in government they believe they're corrupt now you have a corrupt government that is completely Democrat controlled that is showing us how corrupt they are and people are still supporting it. That's my that's where my confusion comes in and it is very confusing and it's that whole D it's that believing that the the people that you know are dishonest and the people that you know are unethical you're believing that all of a sudden on Monday morning they woke up and said well this time I'm sorry for the past but this time we're gonna be we're gonna do things right so yeah we are not going to allow that to pass. Voters are not going to be that stupid in this election and uh it will not only be repealed once I'm the governor but it will also be repealed by the courts the problem with the courts and what the governor knows and what the people that are putting this on the ballot know that they just want to get it passed right now so they can take control of the House it for in the federal government. Yeah. They know it's going to be repealed they know it's going to be taken away it's unconstitutional but it's going to take one two three years in the courts to get through the system so they know that they're going to be able to do whatever they want next year. So it's uh we have to pay attention we have to tell everybody you can to vote no yes we're going to repeal it the courts will repeal it um it's it's an unethical uh dishonest and absolute travesty of a socialistic government saying screw the Constitution screw the voters we're going to do what we want and here's the irony for all of you there is the the governor is is yelling every day that President Trump is a uh he wants to be king he's king Trump and all that you know that they they have no king's day and they're doing all these protests no king's day now has a protest coming up to vote yes on 50 how ironic that King Newsome is telling everyone that we don't like kings but screw all of you voters we're going to do what we want because we have to stay in power we know better than all of you peasants.

SPEAKER_01:

This is what is is so confusing and and and maybe it's because and it's not to it's not to the the voters fault or the citizenry's fault there are a lot of low information voters out there. There are people who don't get involved in anything they just they they live their lives like they want to like as they should yeah um and maybe they watch the six o'clock news or maybe they watch the 11 o'clock news on one of their local channels and they just see the stories and and that's become so corrupted in the last probably 20 years but but they don't dive into stuff they don't listen to political talk they don't um they just kind of shield themselves from all that stuff. So as as I said low information voters. And I think that's why they can hear a message from the governor who has spent roughly 250 million dollars on this campaign which is an absolute waste and we talk about you know all the time fraud waste and abuse in the government and and that's the oh well but the governor says this so I guess I better do what the governor says I guess I better vote the way he tells me to vote.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. It's it's strange. It's a it's a strange place that we're in because you expect your government to be doing things right for you. As a good person you don't believe you we assume the best when we meet people until we learn otherwise the problem over the last several decades and especially in Newsom's career is the media hasn't been on the side of the public. And so they haven't been reporting how they should that's changing now. You have reporters out there that are just destroying Newsom that are destroying the dysfunction in our state government they're not getting the reach that they should be but it's getting bigger and bigger bigger every day. And then we're we're now realizing that low information voter is from generations. Yeah we're predominantly the state of California is is majority Hispanic. Yes the Hispanic culture obviously um the lots of first generation second generation third generation that have come here their values are this they value family they value unbelievable hard work yes they value religion the Hispanic community what we find in Riverside County is they love their guns they love they love the outdoors they love being able the freedom that they have here that they did not have in their socialist countries in their government run countries those are their core values. The problem with all of that is one generation two generation three generations ago those were the values of of the Democrat Party in the 50s in the 40s in the 30s in this in the 60s and they grew up being told you're a Democrat you're a Democrat Republicans are are mean republicans are this uh this is what we are we're for the people unfortunately the Democrat Party changed and they they now call themselves socialist democrats yes so socialism for all of you is bad it's never been good and it doesn't belong in the United States of America and so what we are finding now is even the Hispanics the Hispanics have to start voting their belief system. Yes they have to start voting all of us do we it it as a as a Christian nation as I mean there truthfully you I don't understand how and there are pastors out there that are saying it there is absolutely no way that a true Bible believing Jesus loving Christian can vote for a Democrat and we we have to start voting for values we have to start start voting for those things and then the the people that we pick you have to pick the ones that are uh that believe in those same systems that you believe in order to make sure that that government is now working for for us. Yeah and the the the regular Californians that's why I say all the time can't get over the fact that I'm a Republican but I'm certainly not doing this for Republicans. I'm not doing this to to get in there and and turn California far right and and we're all going to be a Republican now and we're red and all this stuff. I want it to be Californians. I'm doing this for California take take the D and the R out of it and I've said this for since I became the sheriff we will never fix our political system until we get the D and the R off of the ballot. You have to start voting for character you have to start voting for leadership integrity all of those things that are important people that care about you instead of their own personal benefits or ideals or or you it's it's adults who who take all of the information and then make a decision for what's best for everyone not what's best for one at the expense of the 99.

SPEAKER_01:

Right all right let me see if I can okay uh I'm I'm just kind of taking these in order to okay let's see what are some plans to help businesses thrive and keep or direct business in California.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah so that you we you have to absolutely realize and this is me I know without a doubt the job that I am in law enforcement is and should be public safety should be the number one mission of government with that it's the number one cost of government is public safety. We absolutely must be kept safe. It doesn't matter what your cost of living is it doesn't matter how cheap it is if you're afraid to go out of your house or if you're afraid to be in your house you are not going to stay in California. If your business is being robbed blind you're not going to be able to function in California as a business. If no one is going to walk down the street to come into your business they can't step over the homeless people camped out on your front door your business is not going to thrive I 100% know that the only way for a town a city a county or a state to be successful is if we have thriving businesses. Privately owned businesses mom and pop small businesses are the key to any economy in local government we have to get back to the point where we support them. California does not support local privately owned businesses. They're doing everything they can to take that away from you and put you out of business. Yeah and it's business regulation it's business regulation and taxes all of the people that are leaving all of the business owners out there who are struggling in your business it's not your employees it's not your customers it's not the building that you own it's the government and the government regulations and rules and restrictions that are preventing you from having a successful business. Those have to be removed by me making sure that the system is allowing you to grow bigger to grow faster to hire more employees to to make you the American dream is you can achieve anything you want if you work hard enough. Not a guarantee it's if you work hard enough and continuously enough you have the ability to get whatever you want and more as long as the government gets out of your way. Right. And that is my intent in Sacramento is getting government red tape bureaucracy regulation rules and taxes and all of that crap that has harmed us out of the way to make businesses thrive. Okay so we were talking one thing in general and I'll say it right now this is a big thing for business owners the uh the Private Attorney General Act which is basically a way for attorneys to put you out of business will be absolutely gone absolutely gone the the the ability for a it's extortion it is it is extortion written by attorneys passed by bribed legislators that are now able to give attorneys a way to make unbelievable amounts of money just by suing businesses. I have multiple friends who owned multiple businesses that just got out of everything, sold all of them because they were being put out of business by lawyers extorting them for payoff money instead of taking it through the court system because the court system paying all the attorneys and everything else can cost you$40,$50,$60,$70,000 or more, they'll settle it for$15,000$25,000 and so every day you're getting a lawsuit for$25,000$25,000 how does your business survive you just you just quit it doesn't it's a uh especially you know I I I work in the food service industry and I'm I'm I'm a I'm a delivery driver for Cisco Food Service.

SPEAKER_01:

That's a pennies business restaurant restaurant ownership is a pennies business.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah and and you know people think that that oh you own a restaurant you're making money hand over fist that's not necessarily the case and even if you are how much of that money is going to the government yeah so if you own a restaurant the fact of owning a restaurant is you're probably just making a paycheck and your paycheck is is very influenced on a whole lot of other factors not like your employees who have that guaranteed hourly wage you just have that paycheck that I'm making this I'm getting by with a restaurant. You have to own two three four five restaurants to actually be comfortable because you're exactly right it's a pennies business. There's no profit margin in in a in just owning one restaurant. It's you've got to you gotta own a bunch. So you can that little profit margin from each, now you have two times, three times, four times that profit margin.

SPEAKER_01:

So we were talking about we were talking about taxes earlier, especially the the gas tax and fees and that type of stuff. Where well okay where does that money go?

SPEAKER_00:

And then and then it goes to the black hole of government okay that we do not know where it goes. We know now that they do not know where it goes billions. Billions they have no idea where billions of dollars are going. It's it what we know or what we can all surmise and those with common sense can just look and follow it where it goes it's taken from your taxpayer money is taken from you. Yes it's given to NGOs and nonprofits for homeless. The homeless is a big one. Yeah the train to nowhere is another one here the there are many activist organizations that get our taxpayer money that then in turn they get rich. They are not helping anything that they say they're helping. They're making the homeless situation worse while they're taking billions. But then on the backside that money is also going back into that political campaign of the person that ensured that they got the money to begin with. It's a money laundering scheme. It's an industrial complex that we absolutely must rein in. And here's the whole thing with taxpayer money I will make us oil independent. The oil companies have already told me that willingly they will pay that fee for that every gallon that comes out of the ground and just that money alone will be absolutely no different than Alaska itself. Yeah it will completely fund the government and Alaska I'm not going to guarantee that we will get money back that we'll be paid dividends for employees I heard you mentioned there's too many people in the state. Yes and it would probably be fractions of pennies. I mean who knows but we I'm not saying we're going to be Alaska and get that but I will say this it will completely fund government. By the time I am done as your governor of two years there will no longer be a state income tax. We will not pay two terms two terms.

SPEAKER_01:

Two terms did I say two years you said two years but two terms two terms we need two terms.

SPEAKER_00:

Two terms no longer be a state income tax there is no reason why the why the greatest economy in our country is forcing the cost of living so high the highest in the country and taxing our residents the worst this is one of the things of the tax code in California there are 10 states who don't tax their residents and they are thriving. Thriving all of the people leaving here are going to those 10 states those states are thriving you get rid of that you get rid of that income tax we have more money we stimulate the economy we make it better naturally and we all of a sudden get better. So we become the 11th state with no income tax and that is what drives people to come here to work to come here to open their businesses when all of that happens that naturally increases the what you're paid the income level goes up because businesses are competing for employees. So it naturally goes up every the the competition thing of the economy that's how it works. That's how a free economy works and that's what drives thing the cost of everything down for consumers. And we have to get to a point where we're allowing that to happen and it's uh it it's it's truly going to be an easy thing.

SPEAKER_01:

Let me get on to this next one really quick. First before I before I get on to the next topic and I take another question too. Is there a debate scheduled at any time in the future with the uh with all the candidates um there will be probably after January.

SPEAKER_00:

Right uh this is the thing with here's the thing you know with with Republicans it is it is apparent to everyone everyone Democrats and Republicans that I'm the person to be in this election. Democrats are attacking me Republicans are attacking me they're raising money to fight me um the I'm I will be the only person on this ballot with a resume to qualify me for to be the governor. I will be the only person on this ballot um that that that is doing it for California instead of themselves everybody has a personal interest. I want to be this yeah I want to be the first of this I want to be the first of this well I just want to make your life better. That's it. I don't want to be the first of anything other than maybe the first governor that actually makes our lives better here in California.

SPEAKER_01:

It'd be the first time in in quite a while we have we we actually have had uh and we did for for a period of time we did have a string of Republican governors who when they left office left the state with a surplus we thrived we thrived we had Ronald Reagan who who then ushered in back to back Republicans.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah and everything was thriving. Even back then I mean we were in a horrible crime situation the laws that we made the tough on crime all of those things work. We absolutely know they work. So then the 90s the mid 90s come around and Democrats win control again and everything that was made by from Reagan plus the next two George Duke Majin and Pete Wilson. Yes and and everything that they did yeah made our state better yes and made it thrive. Yes the Democrats have completely reversed all of that and now we find ourselves where we are today. It just has to go back we've we've done the right thing every 20 years. So and that's another thing that of me of me winning this office every 20 years or so things get so bad that people just say we can't vote for another Democrat we're going to vote for a Republican. Right. And it's that's it's going to be me. Time has come yeah okay so uh and by the way so you'll you'll announce when there's uh oh we were talking about debates when there's a word on the debate right so we have what is called a jungle primary yes jungle primary jungle primary means that the top two vote getters in the primary go to uh the the general election in November here's the problem for Republicans in California why we never win because Republicans are only running against other Republicans. They're not running for for a primary election they've it hasn't registered to them yet that Republican primary doesn't exist. Yeah so stop running against Republicans. There's all of these Republicans out there that have no chance of winning everyone really if if I felt that there was another Republican that had the chance of winning this statewide election I would get behind them with everything that I have because I like my current job too much. Right. I would I'm perfectly happy doing my current job making more money in a in a county that loves me in a department that loves me doing what I love. That's okay that's what I want to do. So I would get behind anybody. The reality is there isn't anybody that can win other than me. So here's the thing about the debates the Republicans that know they have no chance they all want to debate me. They all want to have these Republican debates and these Republican forums and everything else for what purpose? Right. For what purpose there is no purpose. So I will do any debate that is the top candidates for governor and that's going to include maybe me for sure more than likely Steve Hilton because he is he is up there and then the Democrats who are also leading that's what is important those debates not the we need to get all the the Republicans together to see who we're gonna support. Get over that thinking that thinking is what's making us lose the thinking that we should have is well I'm just gonna automatically support the Republican that has the only chance of winning the best chance of winning. And that's how you get through the primary election. So the primary election for us is is all mathematical right we absolutely know that we are going to be number one or number two. It is a mathematical fact right now that we are going to be number one or number two. When that happens then we know we're going to win in November because we know California is indefensible for a root for a Democrat candidate. So the Democrats are trying to make sure that they eliminate me from that process. Right. They're not going to beat me in November. They have to somehow make sure that I lose in in June in June.

SPEAKER_01:

And and the June 2nd mark it on your calendar June 2nd is the primary election okay so historically nationwide primary elections usually have low voter turnout you guys you need to get out there and you need to put your you need to cast your ballot for Sheriff Chad Bianca okay starting June 2nd next year.

SPEAKER_00:

Mark it on your calendar okay and this is what I for all of you out there I want to tell you I don't have really anything bad to say about any of the candidates that are running. They're all repeating the same things I'm saying. I'll say it there I I came out first I came out strong I came out bold I came out with with who I am a leader and everybody else came out after me and repeated everything that I was saying which is fine we're we're fighting a a system right now in California that's absolutely broken. We should be saying the same thing which so any anybody on the Republican side should be saying the same as the other. You would hope so the reality is get over what they're saying get over who has the best hair or who has the most money. We got good hair well yeah yeah I agree I mean the the those things those silly things that we that we look at we have to get to the point where who has the ability to win a statewide election? Yeah and the reality is is I'm the only one that does and you and not because of Chad Bianco but because of what I represent because of what I've done for the last 32 years of of a public a proven public servant leader that truly I mean we're gonna get the we're gonna get the lies we're gonna get the attacks and everything else it is all a lie and it is all an attack to convince you of something that is not true. I wouldn't be in the position that I have the nationwide leader of law enforcement that I am if there was anything bad in my background. So we've just got to get to that point through that primary I'm not going to debate a bunch of Republicans that have no chance of of winning when we go into that debate their only chance of winning is convincing everybody out there of the lies that they're going to accuse me of of doing or saying or or whatever the case may be that's just simply not true. So but we've been when in one forum so far with all of the other Democrats and it was I I find it hard to believe well we know why there hasn't been another one because it's it was completely obvious to that room of a thousand the direction that that this election's going to go. Good and we will we will actively participate in those uh from from this point forward because um we realize that this election is going to be won by a governor uh or by a Republican and it's gonna be me.

SPEAKER_01:

Good I like that. All right let me see what I got here. I want to hit a couple of these before I get on to my next topic um let's see aside from common sense thinking I think the most refreshing um part is finally uh what does that say this is bad oh yeah finally a Republican governor candidate who's actually out there pounding uh promoting himself yeah sorry that was that was from that was from Pete sorry and that's that's how this is this election has been or was my comment not a question really and and I appreciate that because I'm not going to attack any of my opponents I'm just going to prove to everyone and show everyone that I should be the only one on this ballot.

SPEAKER_00:

There you go. I mean they they they truly uh don't do something and and here's the whole thing are they capable? Probably I mean that look at what we have the bar is set extremely very very low. Very low. So there are a lot of people who are capable we have to get over that capableness and get to the point of we need to win. Who are we going now of course I'm capable everybody is capable but that shouldn't be that's that shouldn't be why you're doing it. So the and what I'm saying is for me I know I'm capable that's not why I'm doing this. I'm doing this because I firmly believe and the political world believes that I'm the only one that has the opportunity to win some others just believe the ego and the and everything else that it's got to be me and I know I can do it. But the reality of all of the of my Republican opponents anyway is none of them have ever won an election. Some of them have never even been in an election some of them have lost multiple multiple times with never a win proving that they can't be elected and now they want to win now they want to win the biggest election we have in what is truly the second most important election in our country.

SPEAKER_01:

The governor of California right there.

SPEAKER_00:

The governor of California is truly the the the second most important elected official in our country and we have to we have to get to a place where uh we realize that California is going in the wrong direction it's not going to change course with anyone on the Democrat side there's not one Democrat that's running that's going to change course no in fact they they may just continue to go further left.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah some of them will and that and that's that seems to be the direction of where we have gone it country as far as our country's concern this is the way I've looked at it and and really I mean California is a huge part of that too because we're right in the we're we're doing the same things that have been going on around the country um is that the government wants to take more control of your life they and I I I say through many things through housing through transportation through the whole uh um uh green energy scam all that kind of stuff where it it more starts to take control over the citizenry um if you if you don't have electricity to to first off you don't have gas to power your vehicle well then you have to go to electric if you don't have electricity because we have blackouts and brownouts in California you can't power your your your vehicle sometimes you can't run your AC at home um then you're then you're if you want to get about somewhere now you're relying on on on government run transportation well if the government provides you their government transportation it controls where you can go how you can move about your it's all about control. It is so let's not get off on that tangent but the the the the left just keeps going further and further left it's it's even a little bit government control over law enforcement.

SPEAKER_00:

Absolutely so government Sacramento has taken my ability away to keep you safe they are they are preventing me from doing what we all know should happen to people who victimize us. Oh we're gonna have to get over here then turn the page and so and and and honestly here's a here's a horrible thing that's happening right now is that we're easily manipulated by what we see on the news by what we see on TV and by what we read. Forever public safety is always number one everyone crime is the number one issue in California crime is skyrocketing crime is out of control we see it every day we're afraid to go to the grocery store all of these things and if you go back over the last five 10 years crime is always the number one issue. Well look at let me tell you something that's interestingly enough happening now. We are being bombarded with all of these polls that are telling us what is important to people threat to democracy. I mean that that's something made up that's a joke in and of itself economy obviously you can never get away from the economy all those things but now what was number one and what truly is number one crime and public safety is number seven number nine not even on the list of top ten these polls are purposely going out and convincing you that something it's it's the wording of how you answer the questions. They've made they don't want you thinking of public safety anymore because if you look at this poll and you see oh look at all these things that are important to everyone and your biggest thing is public safety crime and crime is number nine or not even on the list it's like man am I the only one that thinks crime is bad crime must not be bad anymore. They must have fixed it for us and so now I need to start caring about the economy or threat to democracy or whatever it is they want to control you into believing because this political season's coming up of what they're going to bombarding you with. They're not going to be running the Democrats are not going to run this election to support anything they've done in California. They're going to run it against Donald Trump against the federal government 100% so here's here's 100% the plan is now public safety has been law and order crime is being removed from all of the polls and distanced from your brain why is that because if crime is number one which it is crime is the number one issue for everything and you look at your ballot oh my God the sheriff of the second largest the fourth largest sheriff's department in the country is running for governor to fix our number one issue it's a hands down slam dunk win for me.

SPEAKER_02:

No.

SPEAKER_00:

So they have to make sure that you don't care about public safety and then you won't be naturally drawn to the sheriff to go in and fix it.

SPEAKER_01:

Fortunately um fortunately in my family we're we're uh a ton of law enforcement and first responders so we get it we understand it but okay so let me mention this and then we're gonna get right back into crime well this is all crime but this is how this kind of stuff gets suppressed okay everyone I'm sure everyone is very aware of Arenia Sarutzka who was killed on the on the rail train uh back in in Charlotte North Carolina okay absolute tragic horrific but this is how stuff gets suppressed that crime happened two weeks before the mayoral election the mayor Charlotte is a leftist okay that information that video all that information on that crime on that murder was suppressed until after the mayor was re-elected so to what you're saying where they don't want you to know about crime they want you to forget about crime crime's not important crime and public safety is not important okay nationally nationally about 0.7% of the population is incarcerated okay so that's roughly in a in a country this big that's roughly 233000 people behind bars doesn't seem like many especially when you see all the crime that's being committed around the around the nation now at least here in California can we build more prisons to house more criminals.

SPEAKER_00:

Absolutely and so in so what has happened in the last 14 years this started in in 2012 uh with prison realignment AB uh oh my god AB 109 okay AB 109 was was the result of a lawsuit of the federal government suing the state of California because there wasn't enough bed space in prisons it was overcrowded right so here's the here's the the dirtiness of this if you and your wife have three kids and you decide and you're living in your two bedroom apartment and your three kids are in one bedroom if you decide that you don't want that anymore you either have to get a bigger house or you have to add on more bedrooms so they can have their own bedroom. Right you don't give away two of your kids that's how the government our our failed Democrats that's how they solve the overcrowding problem. They are extremely pro-criminal they have a love affair with criminals and instead of building more room for the overcrowding they released them all. They released a lot of them back into society into our neighborhoods and then they changed the law AB 109 that said we're no longer going to house these people we're gonna leave them in county jail and the county jails are going to house them then they changed laws that made it impossible for us to they made crime not a crime again the the decriminalization and it's all by design you got to realize this that in this election they're going to point to statistics that say crime is down. And they're gonna have a a 10 year 14 year graph of saying crime is going down what they're not going to tell you is every single year they just keep making crime not a crime. So crime isn't even reported anymore. Of course it's going to go down because what we were reporting in 2010 is no longer reported.

SPEAKER_01:

There was a bill passed um what was the bill um uh shoot shoot uh Prop 47 Prop 57 all of those things I think it was 57 is that the word where they where they recategorized violent crime yes and so you you can this is what's so sickening people you can you can rape an unconscious woman and it's not a violent crime in California.

SPEAKER_00:

That's that's sick which mean which means you're not going to go to prison. Right it's absolutely disgusting. It is but every so what he has done he's released all of these criminals COVID came and he actually I can't find it anymore. And unfortunately I didn't save it we're we're going to work on finding it and we know there are ways to do it. You're gonna pay for programs and everything else but they scrub the internet I mean it it thing that they make sure you can't find it. Right after COVID when all this was happening Newsom did a press conference where he said that he would not let a crisis go to waste and it was about releasing inmates. He released inmates he said he's he was going to release the inmates from prison under the claim that they were all going to die because of COVID. Of course and then it was his ultimate goal of closing prisons. Crime is skyrocketing those people need to be in jail and need to be in prisons and he is sending them all back to the streets preventing us from putting them in releasing them early and then closing the prisons when he has room instead of saying hey I have room now these people can go to prison he's closing prisons. So the bottom line with me as the as your governor every single prison that he closed will be reopened and if we need more and only if we need more we will build more prisons. If there are criminals who are victimizing us we absolutely need more prisons. We have 40 million people in this state and we have about 8000 in custody that is that is a fraction of the people who are out committing crimes. We have enabled criminal behavior because there is absolutely no threat of punishment or there's no not only no threat of punishment there is no punishment.

SPEAKER_01:

Well because uh right there's no threat of punishment because even if you do get arrested and you do go before a judge usually it's either soft on crime DA or a soft on crime judge that will either reduce your sentence or expunge your sentence and um and then of course law enforcement nationwide and especially here in California where you have large agencies LAPD San Bernino County Sheriffs Riverside County Sheriffs huge huge departments who are basically fighting with one hand behind their backs.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah and and and you're putting a you're putting a sheriff of the of the one of the largest in the country fourth largest we're the fourth largest sheriff's department in the country you're putting a public safety leader professional been doing this for 32 years in charge of a public safety system to make it better for us. That's what we need. We absolutely must have that the the activists need to be taken out and I'm telling you on day one they all get replaced. Good well on day one they'll all be removed. Day two they will all be replaced but we have to actually start putting capable people back in there who are who are capable and and have the desire to make things better instead of an activist group supporting an agenda. And that that changes on day one public safety is a no-brainer and that's my wheelhouse we don't even need to talk about public safety public safety has been destroyed and I am the the leader of California to make it better. That's a common sense simple look at it that okay this is easy number one issue in California there's the guy to fix it now let's go on to the economy and to schools and to cost of living and all those things and see who's better. And then you're gonna find that my policies are going to rise above everybody else anyway.

SPEAKER_01:

So we I think I think we well you and I certainly are not um are not you know we're good but thanks um you and I are certainly no strangers to this homelessness in California yeah it's it's absolutely rampant. Yeah now now I don't know maybe this is maybe this is um not as simple as this but and and I won't take full credit for this but I have you know I I've thought about this and a little bit maybe a a suggestion um uh uh for a plan of attack on on at least beginning to combat our homelessness some people are homeless because they choose to be okay some people are homeless because they have mental issues and and and and that kind of thing and then I think that if we had professionals professional um um psychologists psychiatrists doctors that could go in and evaluate people go into homeless encampments of course with the help of law enforcement and you start evaluating these people and you can triage them so you put them in three different categories you put them in in in the the folks with that are out here by choice so that they could do their drugs so that they could commit crimes under the radar and that type of thing those those go in one category another category is the folks with psychological problems mental issues mental health health issues that that need to get help that need to be housed and in that case some of those people can be rehabilitated some of those people will live forever in these facilities because they can't they won't be able to to assimilate to a sus to society again and then and then third um uh um oh where'd I have it um people who have um uh substance issues uh that can go to rehab that can get the help that they need and then be uh released or assimilated back into society.

SPEAKER_00:

So you're you're on the right track. Here's the here's the the the the down and dirty homelessness is going to be easy to fix okay because they're not homeless. They all had a home they were all kicked out of their home or they gave up their home because of their drug addiction, their mental illness whatever the however you want to say it drug addiction, alcohol addiction, everything else. We don't have a mental illness problem that is out there. We I mean we obviously do, but it's not the homeless. The homeless that we see on the streets that that are running down the street naked and screaming and and and defecating in front of our business doors and in our neighborhoods and everything else is a drug and alcohol induced psychosis. The only people not consulted to fix the homeless issue are the people that are dealing with it every single day and that's law enforcement. They don't want our opinions they don't want our solutions because they know it's going to work we absolutely must we are doing a complete disservice it is absolutely inhumane what we are allowing to happen these people rotting on their skin dying right rotting in their skin dying on the street while we just turn the other way and we keep putting billions and billions of dollars into other people's pockets so they can drive their fancy cars and live in their fancy mansions while the situation just gets worse and these people keep dying. All of that money has to stop a fraction of that money has to be put toward drug and alcohol treatment mental health care and then the third is a combination of drug and alcohol and mental because some of them are just completely drug and alcohol addicted and they're living on the streets because their family won't have them there because they're stealing from them. They're irrational they're all those those types of things um others have completely fried their brain and they're in a state of psychosis that they are no longer allowed home or their jobs or whatever the case may be. So they're living on the street. When you ask all of these people do you want help every single one of them says no. The reality of homelessness is when Is law enforcement is dealing with them on a day-to-day basis. And we find when we find someone who truly is a victim of homelessness, a single mom with kids, a teenager that got kicked out of their house for whatever reason, doesn't matter, a domestic violence victim, male or female, that is living in their car because they can't go home. When we find those people, we like do backflips because, oh my God, here's somebody that we can actually help. Because that person, when you say, Hey, what can I do for you? Can it can I get you some help? They say yes. And we jump over backwards. There are plenty of ways that we can help them immediately. The rest of them, it's all voluntary. Do you want help? What's the answer going to be from a guy that's not even in his right state of mind? You're the one with the problem. Get out of my face. I'm fine. Yeah. I'm perfect here. So we know how to fix it. It's going to be easy to fix. We will put the money toward Prop 36 would have fixed it. Newsom knows Prop 36 would have fixed it. 70% of the state knows that Prop 36 would have fixed homelessness. That is why they're not putting the money toward it for the funding, because they can't let everyone know that their completely failed Democrat agenda for the last 15 years has been based on a lie and they know it's a lie. So they can't allow it to be reversed. Prop 47, the Democrats' baby to destroy public safety, they can't let you know that they did it on purpose because of an agenda and that they could have fixed it a long time ago. So they are not going to go forward with the fix, even though every single expert knows it will fix it. Homelessness is easy. We will end homelessness within the first year. We will absolutely force these people into drug and alcohol treatment centers. We will get them sober. If they still have mental health issues, we will take care of their mental health issues, address those mental health issues, make them productive again, get them back to their families, back to their jobs, productive members of society, and we can move on past this, which was created by government. It was funded by government, it's encouraged and enabled by government because it is an industrial complex that is funneling massive amounts of money through it back into the political system. Is it because is is part of it because if the the problem is fixed, they have nothing to ask for more money? It's completely so the the way of the way of dem the way of I'm not even going to say Democrats, because I'll blame Republicans for the same thing. You create a problem, so every election you have a solution. Okay. And I'll jump right into another topic: immigration. How many decades are we going to be talking about a broken immigration system? Our immigration system was designed for the 1900s, not the 2020s. We absolutely must fix our immigration system. We absolutely must have immigration into the country. Yes. It's a requirement. We have to have it. Our birth rate is not enough to maintain our economy. So we absolutely must have to have them in the country. It would be an easy fix. An absolute easy fix. But then every four years, the politicians on both sides wouldn't be able to use that as a talking point for you to get elect them because they're fighting against each other. The Republicans are blaming the Democrats, Democrats are blaming the Republicans. As your governor, the second largest state in the country with our with factually status numbers, the most people here who are here not only immigrated but also illegally, California. I, as the governor, will work with the president to ensure that Congress fixes the immigration system. We absolutely, whether anybody agrees with it or not, I don't agree with it. I do not agree that people should be able to come here, break the law, and get here. But the fact of the matter is, our federal government has allowed it for decades. We have to fix it. You don't just keep getting to say it's broken, it's broken and broken. Adults need to sit around the table and fix the damn problem. Yes, it's illegal. It's not jail illegal. It's civilly illegal. So we we make them pay a fine. And here's the whole thing: you're here illegally. Yes, we know you're here illegally. You're gonna have to sign up for this. You're gonna have to agree that you're going to work, you're going to be productive, you're not going to suck the public coffers dry. We're not going to pay you to be here, give you all free everything to be here. You are going to earn your keep. You are not going to break our laws, and we will have this path of citizenship for you. That's what's going to happen. You broke in illegally, you are going to pay that civil fine. You are going to pay a fee. You're going to pay for the laws that you broke. And then we will have a path for you to become a citizen so you and your family can make your lives better. If you came here only to victimize us, you're out. Right. You're out. Get out. I don't care what crime it is. If you are not going to, if you're coming here to make your life better, you're not going to steal from our stores. You're not going to drive drunk and harm us. This well, I got really, you know, attacked because a DUI is a misdemeanor and nothing happens to anybody that gets a DUI. I'm like, well, I don't care. That's they're citizens. If you're here illegally and you get a DUI, you're done. You're going back to where you are and you're never coming into this country again. If you wanted to make your life better, you should have obeyed our laws. And here's the whole thing because this is common. Why I don't know why this is a common thing. They're attacking me because a simple arrest for a misdemeanor that everybody just gets a slap in the wrist. They're attacking me because I believe that they should be deported. Yes, you broke our laws. I have an illegal alien who was in this country illegally on his third DUI arrest, and we know it was his third because he had his first two. His third DUI arrest was actually a vehicular manslaughter arrest because he killed one of my dispatchers. So one of my dispatchers on the way to work was killed by an illegal alien on his third DUI address or arrest. Should have been gone from the first time. Should have been gone on the first one. And that's how that's that is, and we all can agree, even the people who are here in this country that have been here for 10 years, 20 years, 30 years illegally, who have never broken the law, they don't want the lawbreakers here.

SPEAKER_01:

That is true. They want them gone. That is true. Most definitely.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, this was this was I went on a little tirade here. Um but we will, I, as your governor, will get rid of sanctuary state policy. It only protects criminals, it doesn't protect us, it doesn't protect the immigrant community, even the illegal immigrant community. It doesn't protect you. It only protects people who are in jail and prison from being deported on their release. That will be changed. And then I will work with their with our president to make sure that we fix our immigration system to where we can we can give these people paths to citizenship, they can be productive members of society, and they can be part of where we are going to make California the second largest economy in the world.

SPEAKER_01:

Not the fourth. Exactly. The fourth and being broke. Yeah. Um going back to homelessness. When we're talking about mental health, there's been several um mental health facilities throughout the last uh 15, 20, 25 years, even 30 years that have been closed in the state of California.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. It's a chance to get these open back up. It's 60 years. Um it actually started with Ronald Reagan as our governor. Yeah. And the answer is yes. We absolutely this is common sense. A mentally ill person cannot make the rational decision to go into treatment for themselves.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

We cannot allow them to be out doing what they're doing, harming people, the potential of harm, the disruption, and everything else, and just keep giving them money, social security benefits, whatever it is, because some doctor has said you're mentally ill or you have a problem, and we're okay, now we're all just going to pay for you. We are going to help you become normal again, to become functional again. And we are going to have to re to come to the realization that it is inhumane to allow these people to continue the way they are. We have to get them care, we have to get them uh the services that they need, and that is going to require us to force them against their will. But it's it's not, I mean, some of them is going to be kicking and screaming. But the the sane person knows better than the insane person.

SPEAKER_01:

Absolutely. So so you're not doing it to harm them, you're doing it to help them.

SPEAKER_00:

Like like most good, like most ideas, they all start out something good and then they morph into something that becomes disastrous with either sometimes intentional consequences, sometimes unintentional consequences. The idea of getting rid of the mental health institutions was because of the abuse that was going on with the people inside. Well, why didn't we just address why don't we just why don't we just get better people? It's it's it's throwing out the baby with the bathwater. It's it's silly. It was a it was a horrible decision. It was it it morphed into something that it wasn't, and now we're suffering the consequences. So we have to take it back.

SPEAKER_01:

Now, within a within a 50, yeah, 50 mile radius, we have just the ones that I can think of. We have three mental health facilities, two of which are closed, and one has very reduced resources now and and and services, I should say. Metropolitan in Norwalk, Lannerman, five miles up the freeway here in in Pomona, and Patton out in um in uh Highland. You know, and they just the properties just sit. Yeah, they just sit and they're empty and there's nothing going on. I mean, are are they so dilapidated that we can't open those and use those again?

SPEAKER_00:

It's possible. It's possible. We I mean we have we have uh an empty prison in Riverside County. Okay, and they just closed another one, so we're gonna have two empty prisons, uh, some of the biggest ones in the state. Could those be used? Absolutely. Sure, absolutely. Um would that happen? I don't know if that's a is a last maybe I don't want to say a last case resort, maybe it's a first case resort to start get the process going, but then we make things better.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

There are there are plenty of legitimate nonprofits and privately owned businesses that are in business for the sole intent of helping people get better. And they can be utilized, they're underutilized, they're they're purposely not used, um, they're very expensive because uh, you know, insurance won't cover it or doesn't cover enough. There's there's so many things broken in the system. We have to get in and tackle it. And and that's the thing a lot of people say to me, how are you gonna do things? They want to know, you know, write it down, tell me how you're gonna do it. And I say, look, that's not my makeup. My makeup for 32 years, I am a I am a problem solver, I am an emergency solver. The I I that's on-the-job training. I don't want to say I'm better than anyone else. I'm saying that's been my job. My job from the time I started as a deputy is answer someone's emergency call for service, very limited information, get there, figure it all out, and as quickly as I possibly can solve it and move on to the next emergency. That is that's what you do. You can't say, I don't know how. And I'm gonna give you an example. I'll give them, uh I'll give you listeners an example. I was on the phone, happened to be with a Democrat, and he was telling me, we were arguing about me being able to fix the homelessness issue, and and he wants to know exactly how I'm going to do it. He wants us to do it. Word for word, right? Tell me how you're going to do it. And I I drive a cop car. And so I always listen to the radio. So while we're on the phone, uh radio traffic comes over of a man with a gun to his wife that's gonna kill his wife, and he's gonna kill any cops that come there. And he's he heard he hears this. And I'm like, hey, I gotta go. I'm I'm I'm driving through that city. I was on the freeway, but I'm right there. And I said, I'm I'm gonna go to this call. Uh, I'll call you back later. And he's like, Oh my gosh, what are you gonna do? And I'm like, what do you mean? And he's like, What are you gonna do with that? That guy's gonna kill his wife, and he's gonna kill you guys when you get there. And I said, Well, I don't know yet. We're either going to arrest him or kill him, but those are the only two options, and we're gonna figure it out when we get there.

SPEAKER_01:

You assess it when you get there.

SPEAKER_00:

And so I hung up. I called him back later, and he's like, What happened? What happened? I said, Well, we arrested him. It worked out good. We had to assess everything, we figured it out.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

I can't tell you how it's going to happen. I'm just going to tell you what the outcome is going to be. That's my mentality. It's there is a problem, it has to be fixed. I don't know how we're going to fix it yet. I know where we are, I know where we have to get to, and there is no straight line. It's going to weave because we're going to make mistakes. Make a mistake, you identify it, and you go backwards. Right. And then you've weaved all the way, and then we get to point B. That's how you fix a problem. And then after I fix the problem, then we're going to tell you how we did it, and then we'll write a policy for you. There you go. And make sure that it never happens again.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Yeah. Because there are there are a lot of problems, there are a lot of situations that are unique at that time. Maybe something hasn't happened like that before. Yeah. So you can't write word and chapter and you're going to solve it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Not at all. You just have to go do it. And because we're dealing with people, you can't have a policy that tells you how to do it because you and I think different. We act different. If if if someone gives us both a task, I have a I believe that we're both going to achieve that task. But we aren't going to do it the same.

SPEAKER_01:

Maybe not. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. I mean, if if our if our experience and expertise is the same, we'll do it the same. But if you have different backgrounds, different beliefs, different, different uh skill sets, you're going to go about it different than what I'm going to. Neither one of us is wrong because we both achieved the goal. If they just gave us a piece of paper and said do this, and both of us are like, that isn't the way to do it. We can't do it that way. And then we just sit and have meetings about it, then nothing gets done. Nothing gets done. That's where we are in government.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Is government is there to just have meetings for a whole bunch of different opinions instead of just going and fixing the problem.

SPEAKER_01:

And then line your pockets with money.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Getting it from special interest groups or the taxpayers, one of the two or both. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Fixing this is not going to be the economy is going to be easy. It's regulation and taxes. The infrastructure is going to be easy. It's for the most part regulation, government overreach and regulation. We've got to build more roads. We've got to build more waterways. Those are going to be easy. We just have to do it. Get rid of the activism. Uh, CEQA and Coastal Commission have to be removed. The governor just showed us that he can sign away with a stroke of a pen and make it easier for the Palisades to rebuild, but the city of LA refuses to do it. So we know that we can do that for the whole state. We know we will bring down the price of homes because we're going to allow builders to actually build homes again. And we're going to make it profitable for them because it's not going to cost them a third of the value of a home in government fees. Right. I mean, it's it's crazy. We, government has created its own problems. They created our housing crisis. They created the cost of homes in California. Yeah. So every election, they could say, I'm going to lower the cost of homes. This is what's driving me nuts right now. Every single Democrat that's running for office has already been a part of causing our problem. They were assemblymen, they were assemblywomen, they were senators, they were in federal government, they were in city local government. They have created all of our problems. And now they're saying they're going to fix them. You don't get to fix the problem that you created. You created that problem so you would be the hero with the solution, and it's not going to work that way.

SPEAKER_01:

Not anymore, right? That's right. Not on your watch. Not on my watch. Excellent. All right, Rook. Um, actually, I'm going to hit a couple of these and then I want to get to one more thing because we brought you, you, you, you, you brought it up, and I skipped over it. You came back to it. Uh, what do we got? Um, Chuck says you're preaching to the choir, in that most conservatives are on board with you. So that's good.

SPEAKER_00:

So here's the Chuck, I appreciate that. And this is what I'm going to tell you as I travel the state. I know for a fact that we're going to be number one or number two in the primary election. Here's how we're going to win in November. I need all of the Republicans to vote for me. I need the majority of the independents to vote for me. And here's the thing right now: I have the endorsement of the American Independent Party. I need the majority of them to support me. Yeah. And then a fact of elections in California is I need a minimum of 15% Democrats to vote for me. Minimum of 15%. I'm telling you, I'm shooting for 20. Okay. 20 or more percent of Democrats will vote for me. So, yes, I'm preaching to the choir, but this is what we're finding out. The choir is much bigger than we think. And the choir is not only on the Republican side and the independent side, but it's on the Democrat side. Because after these meetings that I have and these group talks that I give and these events that I have, there are Democrat after Democrat that are coming up to me and they'll whisper and everything else and they'll say, hey, I'm part of that 20% that you're talking about. And we need to have you win this election because we need a direction change. So I think you're absolutely right preaching to the choir in a conservative group, but there is a large portion of our registered Democrats who also are part of our choir, and we're all singing the same things. And uh we're gonna be we're gonna be singing hymns of praise when this is over that uh that we are all successful. Okay. I want to read this.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh I wanna I'm gonna read two two questions here. Um let me see, because they're deal with the same topic. We talked about it. We talked we talked about it, but but maybe we can go and uh there's a little more depth to it. Let me see. Okay. Uh how were you reduced the homeless problem and deal with the mental illness? And we did talk about that, but let's just just to be super, super succinct.

SPEAKER_00:

That's that's tied. It's not homeless, it's drug and alcohol and mental addiction. Drug and alcohol addiction that's causing mental illness, or sometimes there's mental illness that's by itself, but we have to identify them. Oh we will have the treatment facilities, we will put the money into the treatment facilities instead of wasting it in the current NGOs and nonprofits where the money's going now, that proving that they can't help, we know where we can help. It's not going to be difficult.

SPEAKER_01:

I just figured something out here. Okay, so I just popped that up. Okay, so on home homelessness, what's your plan to create more jobs and help people get back on their feet?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, we talked about that with the economy already. This is we will be the number one business-friendly state in the country. Instead of our businesses leaving, we will be making it important and almost beneficial to their business to not only come back, but we'll be attracting more businesses. The businesses that we have, we will encourage them to get bigger. Then you have more workers, not only more workers that you know, you you may have more jobs, then you have a workforce that gets to compete now for higher paying jobs. And that is how you stimulate the economy. This is this is I learned this in middle school and high school economics, that they don't teach anymore. They don't want us to know how basic government is supposed to be and how government is supposed to help us instead of hinder us. We will be bringing businesses into this country like like we have or into the state, like we have never ever seen before, because California has not been business friendly, manufacturing friendly since the 80s.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and actually that's when a lot of the regulation started kicking in, is in the 80s, and that's when that's when businesses started leaving, uh leaving the state. Okay, um, somebody asked a question uh about uh election integrity.

SPEAKER_00:

How do how do we election integrity is is real if for anybody out there, again, preaching to the choir, we all know there is fraud going on in our elections, and mail-in ballots are purposely designed for fraud and for outside interference in the elections. We absolutely must get away from that. But here's the thing it's never going to happen until I win this election, until we elect more Republicans in the Assembly and Senate seats, so we have that equalization of power back to where we can get these bills passed and truly just an agenda change. The governor can do it, and I will do it. We will ensure that we go back to one-day voting, right? In-person voting with voter ID. Voter ID is going to be on your ballot next November. Um, you absolutely must make sure that that we pass that. That's going to be huge. It's going to bring more people out to vote. We will pass that. We'll get rid of once I win, then we'll get rid of the mail-in ballots. So, voter integrity, here's the thing that y'all have to realize. President Trump did an absolute amazing job in this last election in that he did this. Never once in the in the 2020 election, we know there was fraud. We absolutely know there was fraud. Yes. He said it all the time. He said the election was stolen, all of those things. People were talking about it all the time. This is what he did in the 2024 election. You can go back and look. He never said anything once. Never said once about stealing the election, about stolen election, about anything. The what he said every single time he talked was we have to make it too big to rig. Too big to rig. So here's the reality of these stupid machines and the fraud and the vote counts and the switching and everything else. Mathematically, supposedly, the math, the people responsible for building these programs or who can build these programs have repeatedly said that the machines can they're they're swapping numbers of data that's actually coming in. So the programs can't be written to completely change everything. They can be written to mathematically alter the count. Okay. If the count is too big, the machine can't do it. The program can't do it. So the too big to rig is we have to win by a big enough percentage, and the percentage is only two, three, four percent.

SPEAKER_01:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

It's not a massive amount. So you need to really think about how much he won by. This was a massive landslide because we know there was still more fraud in the last election. Sure. And he still won because the machines couldn't overcome that huge gap. So, yes, we know it's happening. Uh, you're absolutely right. We need to fix it. We here's one of the things about our country is our military goes into third world countries and fixes them, you know, install installs a democratic form of government and they have free elections. How do they have that election? It's in person, it's monitored by the military, they make you dunk your thumb in ink that doesn't come off for weeks, and you vote in person because they want to make sure there's no fraud. We'll do that to other countries, but yet we in our country, we want, we you don't, you have no idea. We have dogs voting. We have dead people voting. We just read something about that. We have dead people. We have people that are voting with different variations of their names. It is we have a fraudulent system that's been taken advantage of that we absolutely need to address. And here's the whole thing: how do we win? You ask those questions and you vote only for the people that say they're going to fix it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

There's not one Democrat going to come out and say we need to get rid of importion voting. What I will say in California, and and I don't want you to hold me to this as a promise, but I have this in my head. Why don't we take one of the holidays that are worthless that we already have, and why don't we make voting day a holiday? So no one has to go to work. Right, right. Your only job for the day is making sure that our state is taken care of and represented by who you want to represent you.

SPEAKER_01:

There are countries around the world that their election day is the same. Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

We shouldn't, because here's the here's the reality. Every election day, every election day, I don't miss voting. I always vote. But on election day, I'm panicked. I'm like, how am I gonna make this work? How am I gonna make this work? I gotta, I gotta get the kids. A long time ago, it was I gotta get the kids to school. Yeah, I gotta get the I gotta get to work. I've got a meeting, and then my line of work, I'm held after, I don't get to go home on time. Now it's like I've got fires that just come up all the time. And there are some times where it's like, you gotta wait because I need an hour to go vote. I waited till the last minute, I got to go vote. So what we know now is take advantage of the system. They've made it to where they can cheat. I'm not telling us to cheat. I'm just saying utilize the system. A lot of Republican conservatives say, I'm not participating in the election because it's fraudulent. So I'm not gonna vote. Just vote early. They made it so you could vote. You can track your vote, you can make sure your vote gets counted. You vote the first day you get your ballot, and every single day you look on your phone to make sure that they received it and that they counted it. And then we make sure that we're we're utilizing the system that we have to the best of our ability to make sure that we win.

SPEAKER_01:

That's my mother. She does that. Okay, so uh you've been very generous with your time. I don't I don't want to keep you too much longer, but I want to get into this one. We talked about the fires uh briefly in Palisades. So what, okay, we're told every year in California, oh, we're in a drought, we're in a drought, you got to conserve water, and yet um we could have record rainfall and coming out of that winter, we're still in a drought.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah. We've had record rainfall for five years in a row, roughly, maybe even more. And that our farmers and and our people in the central coast and everything else are being allotted 30% of the water rights. It's we don't have a water problem, we never have. We have more water than any state in the country. That's a geological fact. From the mountains we have, from Southern California all the way to the north, we get more rain and more snow than anyone. Absolute fact. We have a mismanagement problem. We have a water management problem where the government has gotten into private deals with private people that are now just making billions and billions and billions off of you. And the reality is this it's going back to that government control. If you want to control the people, you have to control their water and their food. If you control their water, you automatically control their food. So the not only and they don't want you, they don't want farmers. California is one of the leading, it used to be the absolute leading producer of produce in the country. We we have the ability to be one of the largest in the world. It's being taken away by government that doesn't want you to be able to do that. Yeah, they want to take away the ability for California to be self-sufficient with our with our with our beef, with our cattle, with our with with all of our other with our livestock, with our with our produce, our fruit. They want to take away our ability to be independent, force farmers out of business, and that requires us to buy from other countries. They want to raise other countries up. I'm all for them raising themselves up. Raise yourself up. You're not raising yourself up at the detriment of me and of America. If you want to be America, change your government, and then you can eventually be America. But right now, we are Americans and we are going to allow the American dream of independent business, independent farming, independent all of those things to happen, prosper, grow, and make us better. The water issue is an absolute joke. We are wasting all of our water. And this, why is no one in the world talking about this? No one in California is talking about it. And I will ensure that it happens, but it's only going to be for emergencies. Number one, the regulations will be removed, so we will build dams. On day one, the environmental regulations and restrictions of building dams will be removed, suspended, and we will I will call the president and I will say, Mr. President, I absolutely am not going to sue you like the last governors have done. What I want is a favor. I need to work with you. I just did away with all of these. You need to help California help us out here. I need you to send in the Army Corps of Engineers to build me a bunch of dams.

SPEAKER_01:

They can get that stuff done quickly.

SPEAKER_00:

And they will get it done fast. We will fix our water storage problem immediately. Now, has anybody ever heard that Saudi Arabia has a drought problem? Oh, the desert? No. You never have. No, you don't. There is no one in the Middle East that has a water problem. Why? Because they're surrounded by water. California from Mexico to Oregon is nothing but water.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Why are we not utilizing it? Why are we not just taking it out of the ocean, taking the salt out of it and utilizing it?

SPEAKER_01:

Did we not did we not pass legislation uh to build a desalination plant? We built one. Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

It's never been turned on.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I can't remember. It's on the border. I can't remember if it's in San Luis Obispo County or Santa Barbara County, but it it it's it's over there. It just doesn't work. It's never been turned on. So yeah, we have one.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But that would solve our problems. That would help. We can't solve our problem because we don't have a water problem. We have a problem of government wanting control. Okay. And as soon as the government gives up that control, then all of a sudden the people get to do what they want and they don't get to, they don't get to charge you more for it. They don't get to restrict what you have. If a farmer only has 30% allotment of his water, that means 30% 70% of his allotment of crops are going to die. That means he's going out of business. That means he has to sell his property. That means his kids can't afford the taxes on that property because they got that on the backside. And so now the government or business or big business or who the government wants is going to own that property and then they're going to do what they want with it. I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist. I don't want to be that person that it gets labeled as that. What I'm going to be labeled as is that that guy with the platform and a voice who is speaking the God's honest truth in an environment that has been lying to us for decades. That is what I have to offer in Sacramento. My integrity, my honesty, my character, uh, and 32 years of proof that that's all I'm going to give you is all of those things to make all of our lives better.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, we keep getting sold, you know, the story uh, you know, of uh global warming or climate change, whatever you want to call it. It's it's all a farce anyway. It is. Um, about, you know, and the that's the reason why we have wildfires in California throughout the nation.

SPEAKER_00:

So let me tell you about the wildfires and global warming. They blamed it on global warming, but here's the fact. And this is direct knowledge. So, law enforcement, particularly sheriffs, I'm in all of the county areas, and that's where all the fires happen. That's where wildfires happen. So for 32 years, I have been directly involved with Cal Fire fighting these fires because we're responsible for the safety of the people while the fire department's fighting the fires, while Cal Fire is fighting the fires, county fire, whoever, whatever it is that you have. For 32 years, they have told me what the problem is. They absolutely know what the problem is. So here's the fact of California. We've always had fires. We have fire season. That's when it happens. Yeah. We have wind. We've always had wind. We have windy seasons. Yep. They unfortunately sometimes overlap.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

We don't have more fires. What we have are fires that are now uncontrollable. They are so big, they are so hot, they are uncontrollable, you can't stop them. I don't know if anybody, their fireman, back me up here. You can you can, I mean, this is just a this is amazing.

SPEAKER_01:

One of my one of my good friends, he's watching. He he likes to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_00:

So you have you have never seen something more crazy to your brain that defies your reasoning ability when you watch a massive water hose stream of water go toward a fire and disappear before it hits the fire. It is, it's like, what in the hell was that? What is happening? And that fire is so hot that it is the water is evaporating before it hits the fire. So that's what we have right now is we have decades long mismanagement of our forested areas, if you want to call them that, just brush surrounding our town. And that's what it is. We have we have a lot of rain for three weeks in the in the springtime. And we you can watch the hills grow with that brush and the the grasses and the weeds and the trees and the bushes, then they all die. Then next year they all grow again and they all die. And then they all it's been repeated for decades, decades. So we don't have a fire problem, we have a fuel problem. There's too much fuel. When that fuel gets lit and starts burning, you can't put it out. And it goes too fast, it goes too hot, it goes too far. And that's where the Palisades happened. But the funny thing is, is the fire department's been saying it's going to happen for years, and the insurance company has been telling Newsom for five years that cities were going to burn down, exactly like Hawaii. You're going to lose cities because you're mismanaging the the areas around it. They don't care. It was by design. They wanted it to burn. They wanted those things to go away because they're they're going to claim that they're they're they're in Sacramento. He's in he's in his beautiful mansion that's that's protected by everything, and he has distanced himself. It's a natural disaster. It's global warming, it's all of these horrific things that distances him. But it's like, hey, that could have been prevented if we would have done backburns in the off season, if we would have done uh controlled burns, I mean in the off season, if we would have, but the environmentalists that they that run the state are preventing the fire department from actually doing it. And then here's another thing. Not only will those be removed, and we will allow Cal Fire and City Fire and everything else to go in and clear out these places, not clear them out, just reduce the manual so when the fire happens, we can put it out. And then here's this Cal Fire is massive. The size of Calfire is massive, but look at the size of our state. I'm going to use Riverside County as an example, even a little bit of Orange County because Orange County is a perfect example, and I share a mountain range with Orange County.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And we fight fires together, law enforcement and fire department. And then we have our own uh the in in Anza, Idlewild, in that area over there. Our county is different because our county contracts for services. We pay a lot more than a lot of other places do because we don't want anything burning.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

My experience is looking at the fires in Riverside County, and there is massive, massive efforts on those fires from the moment they start. And now over the last 10, 15 years, I look at other places in the state, and to me, I'm like, why aren't they putting out those fires? Why why are they not why why are there not planes? Riverside County, smoke comes up. The 130s are in the air with the retardant putting a square around that fire to make sure it doesn't go very far. And that's how we put out fires. That's how Orange County puts out fires. There are there are some places where it takes us a few days just because of the terrain, but we do everything we can. We're not going to let cities burn down, towns burn down, homes burn down if we can prevent it. I mean, some you can't help, but we are going to put the the resources toward it. It's not like that in the whole state. This is this is the the priorities of government have been put on its head. They've been turned upside down. Calfire's budget for the entire year is four and a half billion dollars. That sounds like a lot.

SPEAKER_01:

Actually, for the state, it doesn't sound like a bunch.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, it I'm going to show you how little it actually is. Okay.$4.5 billion. The governor, instead of giving them more money to protect us and to protect our towns and protect our cities, four and a half billion dollars for the entire organization, he was going to give$12 billion to health care for illegal immigrants. Oh, yeah. Yes, yes, yes. That makes a sense. Where is a priority when you will allow no re I I don't even have to double the overall cost of Cal Fire because the overall cost we know in government, we know how things work. My biggest cost driver is personnel. And it's it's like 90% is the cost of personnel. So I don't have to have a whole lot more Cal Fire fighters. I do need some. I need equipment.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I need the airplanes.

SPEAKER_00:

I need retardant. I need all of those things to put those fires out to protect. And they will be easy to do if you had a governor who actually put that priority on it, which public safety is my number one priority. I'm gonna make you safe from criminals, I'm gonna make you safe from the natural disasters, as much as we can control as possible. We are gonna do everything we can to keep us safe.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and I and I've said, I've said, you know, all along, you know, from the from the moment that the the fires in Altadena and Pacific Palisades broke out and you know, firefighters turned on the hydrants and there was no water because there was no water in the reservoirs. The reservoirs would run dry and they were never they were never filled up as they should have been, which is part of maintenance. It's part of uh uh you know taking care of that. Now you can never stop fires. The fires are gonna happen. It doesn't matter if it's wildfire, house fire, whatever. You can't stop them from happening, but you can certainly control the amount of damage they cause. And without the resources that the firefighters needed, they couldn't control anything.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, we have the resources to fight fires. We don't have the resources to mitigate the size, the destruction of the fires that we get. So we do have to increase a little bit. They do need more personnel, they need more personnel, particularly in the north, where in the in those big areas, but they need to have the resources, they need to have the equipment, and we need to actually have it a priority to make sure that we don't lose lose another city. And the reality is we all sat back this year, like last year in January, and we watched a city burn down. What has happened to make sure it doesn't happen again? Nothing, nothing, not one single thing. You have a complete failed governor, you have a complete failed mayor, they have done absolutely nothing to make sure it doesn't happen again. And so the the the normal, common sense, critical thinking person has to say, that doesn't make sense at all. Why? Why would you not make sure this doesn't happen again? And the only answer is because you want it to happen again. Right.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. It's absolutely right. You know, the best thing, the only good thing coming out of that disaster in January was when President Trump showed up and he put the mayor on notice. And he, I mean, he's been putting the governor on notice forever. Yeah. But he put the mayor on notice and she stood back and she told him that things were gonna happen and they still haven't happened.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, no, no, no, no, no. We're doing this. No, no, we're gonna approve this, we're gonna approve that that permit, we're gonna take care of, and nothing has happened except for leeches with lots of cash coming in and and attempting to, or in some cases, buying up property. Yeah. For their for their own purpose. Yeah, not for the people. Right.

SPEAKER_00:

So that's what that's what I'm offering is I'm offering a California government that makes our lives better instead of us making government bigger.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Government has to be shrunk, government has to be uh the the money has to be monitored, stopped, the flow of money. We're going to read not only are we completely doging the waste of of our state government, we're going to reduce the size of our government, we're going to increase the private business in the in the state. There's there's we're going to bring more people into the state. We're going to allow people to build homes, developers to build communities. We're not going to price them out of the business. And then the homes that they're able to build without the government restrictions, we're actually going to be able to afford. We're going to stimulate and drive this economy like it's never been done before. The only thing that I haven't talked about, and we've talked about a lot in depth, yeah, is our education system is absolutely broke. Yeah. I will make sure as the governor that we have a voucher system for any public school you want to attend, any private school you want to attend, any charter school you want to attend, or if you want to homeschool, we're going to have a voucher system for homeschool also. We are going to make sure that we have an educated group of kids not indoctrinated. And I will tell you that as your governor, this is a hot topic and it makes absolutely no sense and it's absolutely insane. As your governor, there will never, ever, ever, ever be another boy in your daughter's locker room.

SPEAKER_01:

It's not going to happen. Amen to that. Amen to that. Yeah, we're going to I'm going to work on um, I'm going to work on having Sonia Shaw. Sonia's got to be elected. I'm going to sit, I'm going to try to get her right in that chair where you're going to be able to do it.

SPEAKER_00:

She is a warrior for our kids. Yes. And as much as we need me to win this governor election, she needs to be the superintendent, the superintendent of schools.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Yeah, that's that's excellent. Okay, so uh again, you've been so tremendously generous of your time. And if everybody who is who's still watching, if you were watching the first five minutes of this, it wasn't going so well. Um, but look how it ended up. It it turned out tremendous. You have an event this evening, uh, from five to seven, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, we we do. We um we have events every day. Yeah, uh tonight it's pretty busy. Tonight we've got a fundraiser in San Bernardino. Uh it's it's gonna be a good one. Last night we had one in uh in Apple Valley. Uh we had over 700 people uh show up to that one, and um it was a great night. It was uh we've we've got a massive, massive, massive ground roots uh campaign going on that that is that is just spreading across this state. And I'm so humbled and and fortunate to be in this position. And it's uh, you know, it it makes you last night, you know, you you've got 700 and something people there that are just you know looking at me to to make a difference, and they're they're putting their trust and their faith in me to make a difference, and they're coming out, and the support is amazing. So the event tonight uh in San Martin is gonna be good, wide auto body parts. Uh, there's there's they're great organization, great people, and uh it's just you know, I'm telling you, it was a business last night that that did that also. Uh hits plumbing. And it's I gotta tell you, this is a selfish plug, and and and it is just for all of you out there and for all of your friends. If you are a business owner in this state and you are not supporting me in this election, uh you're not doing everything you possibly can to make your business better. I mean, there there is not going to be another person that is business friendly. My friends are all business owners. Uh my friends have all either, they're all either struggling now or they've already sold their businesses and moved out of state because they couldn't do it anymore. The state made it not conducive to be in business. And as a person who is in government, always trying to do the right thing in the public safety sector, I it's my job to make us safe. I gotta, I gotta be able to be in a bitter, bigger position to make everything better. And I I gotta, I promise you, I know what's broken. I know where things are broken, I know how easy it's gonna be to fix. It's a bureaucracy that has to be eliminated. Most of it is not caused by laws. I will sign them all away. We will end them immediately, and we will work on these fixes and these processes to make sure that we stimulate ourselves, we achieve anything that we can that we can get. And my goal is to make sure that why I came to California for the California dream, I need to make that even an option for my kids, my grandkids, and for all of your kids because it's been taken away.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I love it. I love it. Well, um, I'm just letting you know right now, Catherine and I are gonna try to be out there this evening. So we'll so you'll see our our uh faces again. Um, so that's tonight at five o'clock from five to seven. That's in San Bernardino at whose autobody? I forgot. Wyatt's white's Wyatt, Wyatt, as in as in Wyatt Earp. Um, yeah, and the great part is now you can uh do you call these campaign events or rallies?

SPEAKER_00:

Um I'll tell you what, last night's was a rally.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_00:

Last night's was amazing. These are uh both of these are fundraisers. It's uh you know, regardless of what we what we like or don't like about campaigns, it's a massive state. I can't reach everybody. We got to do it by media and we got to do it by the news and commercials and f and mailers and things like that, and it takes a massive amount of money.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So we're I'm very humbled by the people that are sacrificing their their money for this campaign. Um, we're sacrificing our time, our lives, our our our safety, what we're finding out now, and uh to to make our state better. And I think that you know, a a a small monetary sacrifice uh to make sure that we can we can save our state, rescue our state. I appreciate all the people that are doing it. And there are so many people stepping up, uh wanting to hold fundraisers, small and large. And it's uh it's amazing. That's what's gonna make it.

SPEAKER_01:

And the cool part is like last night and then again this evening, these are like small businesses. These are small businesses that are putting these on that are saying, hey, come to my place and we're gonna bring the people in and we're gonna raise a few bucks for you, and uh, and we're gonna spread the word. And that's the bottom line in all of this. I tell you people, tell a friend, and that's what we're doing here today. We're out here to spread the word. We're gonna tell tell a friend, we're gonna tell two friends, and tell all your friends. Okay. Um, listen, again, I I can't thank you enough for this. This has been really, really uh it's it's been great. It's it's good to meet you, and I can't thank you enough for the time that you spent in that chair. And I hope everybody out there has enjoyed this. We're gonna let's just wrap it up right here, okay? Um, as you know, this program is available wherever you get your podcasts. Uh, just search the Ben Maynard program. Boom, it's right there. Go with it. Uh, but you do me a favor, subscribe to it so that every time a new episode drops, you get notification, okay? Uh, and then you, you know what? Leave me a five-star rating. I appreciate that, okay? I deserve it. And this morning, Sheriff Bianco deserves it. Um, but this morning we're live and you're watching on YouTube. And for doing that, I greatly appreciate it. Uh, again, subscribe to the channel. You'll get notified uh on the new episodes as they drop. Uh, you got to give me a thumbs up and leave a comment, okay? I reply to all your comments, and uh I can't thank you enough. But you have to tell a thousand of your family and friends too, okay? Uh last but not least, follow me on Instagram, all one word, Ben Maynard program, or on the TikTok, the Ben Maynard program. Okay. So that's it. We're done. Uh thanks again. I'll catch you guys next time. This is the Ben Maynard program. Tell a friend.