EP. 141 "FRIDAY NIGHT LIVE"! Raul Explains Why Trades Work Still Wins

One wrong answer and you’re chewing a jelly bean that tastes like wet dog. That’s the deal we make on a live Friday night, and it somehow becomes the perfect way to talk about what really matters: consistency, craft, and showing up when it would be easier to tap out.

We start with a real look at podcast longevity and why most shows fade after 10 to 12 episodes. Raul talks about how guesting on podcasts flips a switch for him and leads to his own upcoming show, Hard Hats And Humor, built around job site stories, leadership lessons, and the kind of safety truths you only learn in the trades. We also get practical about the behind-the-scenes grind: microphones, editing software, and why I’d rather publish fast with an honest, unedited feel than spend hours polishing away the human parts.

Then we go full 80s nerd: International Beer Day, Purple Heart Day, Live Aid, USA for Africa, Billboard chart math from sales to streaming, and the early days of MTV with its first batch of music videos. Along the way, we chase the fun question of who was “cooler” in high school, why some celebrities can cross from acting to music, and what the trades still offer that AI can’t replace: skilled hands building real things.

If you like podcasts about the creative process, construction culture, leadership, and music nostalgia, this one hits all of it. Subscribe to The Ben Maynard Program, share it with a friend, and leave a review with your most infamous Bean Boozled flavor. #thebenmaynardprogram #tellyourstory #fridaynightlive #hardhatsandhumor #raulortega #classicrock #80smusic

Transcript

Welcome And Where To Listen

SPEAKER_00 0:11

Hey there, welcome into the Ben Maynard program. Thanks for being here. Uh, you guys look, look who I look who I have right next to me. Yeah, I'm not solo tonight. It's date night with Ben and Raul. So we'll have like a threesome or something, a little menage a tois or whatever, you know?

SPEAKER_03 0:31

Uh strictly heterosexual date night. Just for the record, Ben.

SPEAKER_00 0:36

Yeah, okay, sure. Sure. Whatever you say, Raul. Thank you. Hey, but before we get into any of that nuttiness, I just want to remind you all that this program is available wherever you get your podcasts. And of course, like tonight, because we're live, it's on YouTube. So just uh subscribe to the Ben Maynard program. Um, last but not least, follow me on my socials, on Instagram. It's simply Ben Maynard program, all one word. Or where I'm a little more active on the TikTok, it is at the Ben Maynard program. So there are plenty of ways to take in this show for your dancing and listening pleasure. And away we go. Raul, what is up on this Friday evening? How's it going?

SPEAKER_03 1:20

It's going great, you know. Uh work, work, work, fun, fun, fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:25

Oh, yeah. Well, I I'll let everyone know. I'll I'll start it off by letting everyone know that um, you know, Raul is like big time now ever since he um ever since he came on this, ever since he came on this program right here and and took it hostage and played the host, he's like big time. Okay. And um he's he's doing other podcasts, so we're gonna get into that in a little bit. Um, but uh yeah, he kind of doesn't have time for me anymore. So getting him on was uh was uh you know at a store, not the truth.

Raul Gets Big Time

SPEAKER_03 2:07

And Ben and uh uh Larry Reedy's big pond.

SPEAKER_00 2:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely. So you you mentioned Larry, and you know, you know, people Larry and Raul and I, we're we're Raul started this uh this text group, and almost every morning these two guys are going back and forth and they're getting me involved. And I'm at work, I don't have time for this nonsense. I don't know, I don't even think Raul has a job. I really don't. I mean, we all know Larry's retired, but I don't think Raul has a job. So you know these guys, these guys are just blowing up my phone constantly, and it's like, guys, I got work to do here. But we have fun with it.

SPEAKER_03 2:49

That's what people say on my job site too. Raul, you what are you doing? What are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 2:56

But we have fun with it, right?

SPEAKER_03 2:58

Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, you know, I find I find it uh I find it a always always learning when I speak to you and Larry, uh, always challenging myself uh uh to stay consistent uh with what you folks have done. You know, all the all the studies I've uh uh I've gone through says that you guys are unicorns because most people most podcasters tap out around 10 episodes, give or take. That's what I read.

SPEAKER_02 3:32

Yeah, yeah, that's right. That's right.

SPEAKER_03 3:35

You guys are you guys are in the hundreds, uh Larry's in the billions. So, you know, you think so. That's uh that says a lot. That that you know, that says a lot with respect to your uh your commitment, um, your willingness to keep moving forward. And that's that's inspiring.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

Yeah, what you said is is is so true. I mean, there's like 4.7 million podcasts, you know, I guess worldwide, which I mean, think about it. That's that's a ton. That is a lot of a lot of choices for people to make besides whatever their regular kind of listening or reading is. And um, yeah, I I read I kind of read the same thing. You and I were you and I were kind of doing research at the same time, and and and I read the same thing that most it was like a really high percentage of of people who start podcasts stop somewhere between 10 and 12 episodes, some don't even make it to 10 episodes, right?

Larry Reedy’s America Shoutout

SPEAKER_00 4:36

And um, so you know, like you know, Larry is what did he say he was? He's like over 700 episodes now, I think. Right, and uh and and I look all transparency people, if you're not listening, well, before the transparency, if you're not listening to Larry Reedy's America, you're you're really doing yourself a disservice, especially in the last year. Um, Larry had a bunch of episodes leading into last year, but but from about July, so it's been about 12 months now. Larry did three different uh history segments on his podcast. He did one on each president, starting with George Washington and going all the way to uh to Donald Trump. He hasn't actually released the episode with Donald Trump's current um uh uh current time in office, but but uh he's done every president prior to that. He did a segment on every single state, all 50 states, and he released one every single week. I think he's coming up on his last uh the last one, I think he's got he's got coming up. Uh and then he also did every day of the year, so 250 days. Or yeah, he years. I'm sorry, he did he did one on every year, and he released it every day. So so over the course of 250 days, he covered 250 years of the nation, so a lot of history. I I tell you, Larry, I'm that guy's a rock star, man. He's something else, man.

SPEAKER_03 6:17

I'll tell you what, you know, like when when we were in school, you know, I I always enjoyed history, uh learning about it, but but not to the degree of what I've learned with Larry listening to all the all the backstories and and and all the good stuff from each president. Yeah. And and and in the states, you know, in terms of how we got the name, you know. Oh I mean, there's so many, there's so many gold nuggets in listening to Larry and learning so much that uh I've I've uh I have my grandsons and they're six and four. And uh I said, hey, listen, listen to this. You know, they they can only listen for like five or ten minutes, right?

SPEAKER_02 7:02

But yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_03 7:03

But I'm getting I'm trying to get them acclimated to uh to learning about you know our history. So I think it's extremely important.

SPEAKER_00 7:09

I yeah. Yeah, a hundred percent. I mean that had to really take a lot out of out of Larry because he man, and like I said, the guy's just a rock star. And and and really, guys, you really need to check check out the Larry uh Larry Reedy's America. He covers a lot of other stuff, but that was his big focus for this last year.

SPEAKER_03 7:30

Um if you love booze, if you love booze too, Larry's got it.

SPEAKER_00 7:35

He's he's got like a hundred a hundred episodes just on beer and whiskey tasting. Yeah, and he'll get his buddies in uh he'll get his buddies on there, like three, three other other buddies, and they're drinking, they're tasting beers, they're tasting whiskies. They even do stuff where they're tasting frozen pizzas, you know. So, but it's good stuff. And and you know, if you guys aren't aware, Larry is an 87-year-old veteran and uh a former businessman and everything. He lives on the Reedy compound in Batesville, Indiana. I mean, he's got like a 40-acre spread out there, just love it. He actually didn't he send us pictures. He sent his pictures, he sent his pictures, yeah, of all all his grass. Because I was out this morning, people.

SPEAKER_03 8:22

I was out the stuff you smoke, folks. Either not the stuff you smoke. No, no, no, no, no. Real, real grass.

SPEAKER_00 8:27

The greens, the stuff you roll around on. Yes, yeah. And uh, I was out doing yard work this morning. I had the day off, and of course, you know, here comes Raul and Larry start blowing things up this morning. I'm like, dudes, I'm humping my rear end right now doing the yard work.

SPEAKER_03 8:44

All right, I can't even tell you what I told Ben on just because for so many reasons, but anyway, yeah, because some most of it's very inappropriate. Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 8:57

Yeah, yeah. It's like locker room talk. But uh anyway, so you know, uh, so rock on, listen to Larry. Larry's podcast is audio only, and it's wherever you get your podcast. Just look up Larry Reedy's America, or you can go like to his website, Larry Reedy's America.net, I think it is, and uh, and just look it up. Just just look at it, he's got all the episodes there, and it's fun because you got this, you got this guy really, he's like your grandpa, and he's giving you a history lesson, you know. So it's it's really cool. Anyway, so but but Raul brings that up because Raul was a guest on Larry's podcast a couple weeks back, um, a short time after Raul came and took over the studio here, and Larry saw that. Larry says, Hey, you know, Raul's great. I want Raul on my podcast. And so um they had already hooked up, you know, they'd already been in touch with one another prior to that. And um so so they did that, and now, you know, Raul's getting calls to be on this podcast or that podcast. So I figured before Raul blew up and just completely shined me uh like a shoe that I would get him back here because he hasn't been a guest on the podcast. He's he's been a you know, he's been the host, but he hasn't been a guest. So Raul's got some stuff coming up. He um he got he really got the fever after hosting

Raul’s Podcast Spark

SPEAKER_00 10:30

this show here. And uh so I want to talk about that. So you got a podcast coming up, Raul. So let's bring everybody in and let them know what's going on.

SPEAKER_03 10:40

So you're absolutely right. When uh when I was on your I you know, I I consider myself an extrovert, you know, uh pretty jolly guy. Um I guess I can be funny, I guess people say.

SPEAKER_00 10:54

Hey, do me a favor, do me a favor, get get up, uh, get up on your microphone a little bit more.

SPEAKER_03 10:59

How's that? How's that better?

SPEAKER_00 11:00

Yeah, yeah, yeah. A little better.

SPEAKER_03 11:02

Okay. So um, so I you know, like I mentioned before on on Ben's uh podcast, I've been uh I've been a fan of Ben's and he, you know, he shakes his head and uh does all this nonsense, but I really have. I've been I've I've uh I I've watched almost darn near all of his podcasts, and I'll uh not all, so I'm not gonna exaggerate, but I'm I'm in the process of of listening to all of them and Larry's too. Um so when I say I'm a fan, uh I am. And and what what what what started to happen when I started talking with Dan and Larry, I said, wow, these guys are great. Um I wonder if I can do it. You know, wonder wonder if I can put something together. And I got on Dan's podcast and he's kind of right with you know I've had right now to date, I have eight podcasts that uh I either I've been on, I've been a guest on, or will be a guest on. Um and I'm I'm extremely humbled um because I don't know, um I'm just a dork. Um but uh but I like sharing stories and but but but also like I told Ben and I've told him all the time, I'm an active listener. I'm an active listener and learner. Uh you know, Ben is told me things that I remind him about and it's probably been a couple of years, and I'm sure he goes, I can remember that nonsense stuff, or how does he do it? I just don't forget. Um because I I truly believe that our our our life is about learning and uh and and other things too, being kind, being courteous, being caring. And that's kind of why I think I gravitate towards uh Ben and Larry, um, because uh you know they embody that. They really do. And uh there's just such a wealth of knowledge, and I'm not a real big music buff, but I enjoy I I enjoy listening to Ben because you know he's he's uh savant, he's a dork when it comes to this stuff. I don't know where he pulls it out of, but it's just all there.

SPEAKER_00 13:25

Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, stop. Okay, this isn't about me, this is about you. No, I know, but I'm I'm I'm I'm just trying to share where it came from, I guess. You can tell you can yeah, you can tell everybody that I made you sp I made you spend a whole boatload of money after one one podcast episode on yeah, these vinyl records that Ben doesn't even have a uh a vinyl radio player, or I don't know what the hell they call it. You mean a turntable?

SPEAKER_03 13:51

Turntable, there you go. But I but I made you I made me yeah, he got me all excited and I I went and bought a turntable and a bunch of vinyl records.

SPEAKER_00 13:59

Yeah, yeah. And then sent me a picture of it and said, Thanks. You made me spend all this money.

SPEAKER_03 14:04

Yeah, I don't know if I'm ever gonna play them, but I have them. Um stare at them. Uh you know, my my my gift to music is turning the radio on. Yeah, that's my gift, and uh I have an enormous amount of uh of uh God just just admiration for for these artists uh that that do this and have done it and continue to do it. So that's that's kind of how it started. And uh you know, my my podcast is called Hard Hats and Humor. And it it really involves my background, whether it was in leadership or being a safety consultant manager on job sites. You know, the things I see, the things people do, the things they don't say. You know, it it's uh luckily, luckily, you know, many of them, almost all, never end any fatality. Because there's nothing funny. There's nothing funny about that. However, there's situations where you say, really? Really, you know, one of my taglines is don't be that guy. Don't be that guy.

SPEAKER_02 15:17

Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_03 15:18

And uh and if you've ever been on a job site, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Exactly what I'm talking about. And I think that's why it resonates with people, especially people in the trades. Like Ben, you're in the trades. You're you're you're a uh professional CDL truck driver, so you're in the trades, you get it. I did an episode on people peeing on the side of the freeway. You get it, you see it all day. You see it all day, and um and and then I followed that up with because I told them about the I told him I shared the problem, but I never gave a solution. So the next segment I talked about a solution, buying a peacock or urinal things, or I don't know. Just getting a good pee pee geographic uh location or hot spots, if you will. You gotta be real careful about those.

SPEAKER_00 16:01

Or Mickey's big mouth, you know, beer bottle.

SPEAKER_03 16:06

Right. For those big guys, I guess I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 16:11

I would have okay, so but but your your podcast hasn't officially launched yet. You've you've been setting things up and you've been you've been uh trying to gather a following. You've been putting out a lot of shorts on your YouTube channel and and and working at building it that way, and then you you uh got your social media stuff going as well, right?

SPEAKER_03 16:36

Yeah, you know, in about in about three weeks I got over 3,000 followers. Yeah, which I thought was, you know, I think it's okay. I'm grateful, I'm thankful. Um, I thought it was a pretty great start. Because I what I wanted to do was no no no, it's not a pretty great start.

SPEAKER_00 16:51

That is a great start.

SPEAKER_03 16:52

I want I want I want to use that as a feeder into into into the YouTube podcast so that way people get some familiarity and understand what I'm talking about and and try to generate traffic you know that way. So yeah, I've been doing a lot of research on microphones, you know, special apps for editing. And I'll tell you what, this editing thing is I I'm just my goal to to the Ben Maynard uh editing school where he doesn't edit and you get warts and all, as he says, because I'll tell you what, folks, it is rough, rough. Yeah. Uh with that that component of it. And I'm learning, but uh I don't know how that's gonna go.

SPEAKER_00 17:35

Well, not only that, Raul, I think like, I mean, for me, I just there's a couple reasons. One, because editing takes a lot of time and I'm not real proficient at it. So that's one reason. Another reason is without the editing and the warts and all, everything comes out organic, you know, just as it as it you know, as it's spoken into the microphone, that's how it's translated onto the you know uh the YouTube channel or where the the you know uh streaming platforms, wherever it goes, it goes out just that way. And then for the listener or even the the viewer, they get to see that you can tell when someone's obviously when someone's editing their videos. So what is it that they're actually editing out? Look, I don't have the smoothest delivery there is, um, but that's okay. I'm all right with it. It's just, you know, I have my my speaking gate, so to speak, and that's that's how it is. I'm not gonna try to change that, but a lot of it is for time too, because once I record something or like what you and I are doing, it's live tonight. Um, and by the way, this is Friday Night Live. This is date night with Ben and with Raul. And so um I don't once once I'm done, I hit stop. I don't want to spend a bunch of time cutting things up. I want it, I want to get it out there and published and to to the uh the podcast world uh as soon as I possibly can. I want them to hear it or watch it, whatever it is that they do. I want them to get it in as quickly as possible. So that's you know, a couple reasons why I don't want to do it.

SPEAKER_03 19:16

So makes sense. Yeah, it's making more sense as I said as I try to learn it.

SPEAKER_00 19:23

So so okay, so we'll come back to the we'll come back to the podcast in in uh in a minute. Again, it is hard hats and humor. All right. And Raul's on Facebook, he's on TikTok, uh, Instagram too, right, Raul? Yes, sir, yes, sir. And then of course, he does have the YouTube channel as well. It's all hard hats and humor. You don't have to do anything else. Just look up hard hats and humor on whatever platform you're on, you're gonna find it, and you're gonna see Raul's pretty face there. So let's let's get into this. Because hey, we got it, we got a normal uh uh uh thing that we do here on Friday. Yeah, we're you know, we gotta stick with the program a little bit.

International Beer Day Talk

SPEAKER_00 20:05

So I'll start by um by saying today, I'm not sure if you're aware, but today is International Beer Day.

unknown 20:14

I am not.

SPEAKER_00 20:15

Okay. Well, I don't know if you have a beer sitting there or not. It is Friday, so you might have beer already, you know. But uh so it's International Beer Day, and as everyone knows, I don't drink beer. I like I like my I like my barrel aged stouts, but I know it starts out like a beer, but it really isn't a beer, especially by the time it's done.

SPEAKER_03 20:36

So do you drink those cold or warm?

SPEAKER_00 20:38

No, room temperature. Room temperature? Yeah, room temperature. Yeah, um kind of just yeah, just just like the um just like with whiskey or you know, tequila, whatever it is, you know, um drink it at room temperature and really enjoy the aroma, all the the the the flavors and stuff that it that it that it gives you, that kind of stuff. So it's it's totally different. I used to, when I started drinking, when I started drinking tequila really not that long ago, 20, a little over 20 years ago, um I used to want it cold because I like 60 years ago.

unknown 21:16

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 21:17

In dog years. But I uh but I I like everything cold. I like ice cold milk, I like ice cold, you know, water, whatever. So I would put a ice cube in it or something and and drink it cold, and it tastes great, but you lose you lose something, you know, you lose that that aroma, you lose that mouthfeel, you lose that um whatever flavor it's got going on in there. Um, so I didn't I I just I was like, I I broke down actually. My my brother Jim is the one who was like, dude, you gotta try it this way, you gotta try it this way. Okay, all right. So I so I I I came around to His uh school of thought and it paid off. I completely understand where he was coming from on it. So yeah. So that's it, you know, the whiskeys, tequilas, barrelate stouts, all room temperature.

SPEAKER_03 22:15

So so since it's beer day or national beer day, is it national beer day?

SPEAKER_00 22:19

Is that international?

SPEAKER_03 22:21

International? Okay. What uh if I had to pick a beer, and I don't drink beer all that very often either, uh but I would I would I would pick Heineken. I think I've come to uh to really enjoy that beer.

SPEAKER_00 22:35

What would be your uh being that I do not drink beer at all, let me see. Probably because I love the name, probably moose head.

SPEAKER_03 22:48

Gosh, that's high school stuff, man.

SPEAKER_00 22:53

It's I don't know. I my my my younger brother used to just love drinking moose head, so uh probably moose head.

SPEAKER_03 23:01

Wow, wow, that's that's a flashback for sure.

SPEAKER_00 23:05

Yeah, yeah. Or or or even even maybe low embrow, you know.

SPEAKER_03 23:10

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

How how how did the jingle go again? It's uh oh my goodness. I don't remember how the jingle went, but it would it ended by saying, um, wow, got how'd it go? I had it and I just lost it.

SPEAKER_03 23:25

But the only the only the only jingle I ever remember is the the banquet of beers.

SPEAKER_00 23:30

Coors coors, yeah. Yeah, just that's just comes up to well I got I got again, I don't even drink it, but I got Catherine into drinking Coors Banquet. Yeah, right, right because you know we watch that's top shelf stuff. We watch Yellowstone and we watch Button Ranch and all that, and that's what all the cowboys drink is uh you know, Coors Banquet, and it's gotta be in that that short bottle. And I'm so glad that they brought that back after going away for so many years because that's how it was like when we were kids, you would see it, and it was those short, stout bottles. So I got Catherine into that, and she's she's liking it. Yeah, she's liking it. But anyway, so what was it? Let it be low and brow. I can't remember how it led into that. Let it be low and brow. Ah, good, yeah, great stuff.

Purple Heart Day And History

SPEAKER_00 24:20

So um, you know, all right. So this uh this day in history, though, Raul, in 1782, first president of the United States, George Washington, ordered the creation of the first United States military decoration. It was initially called the Badge of Military Merit, and today we know it as the Purple Heart. And today is Purple Heart Day as well. So yeah, I like that. Especially I I feel good about that because I have had two Purple Heart recipients on the podcast, you know, in studio, you know. So I just like, yeah, I love that. And as a matter of fact, uh Ronnie Geyer, the first one that had come in, he brought his purple heart with him, you know, and showing it on the camera and everything. I got to hold it. It was great. It's and it's funny, it's you would think that that it would it would mean more to him being in pristine shape. That thing's wore out, beat up, because he wants other people to to to look at it, to touch it, to feel it. And he's so for all these years that he's had it, he goes out and speaks at schools and youth groups and everything else. And so they're just he's just passing the thing around, you know.

SPEAKER_03 25:45

So an American hero.

SPEAKER_00 25:47

Yeah, yeah, definitely. Um and then let's see. Uh so and then oh, yeah, this day in 1957, Oliver Hardy from the comedy team, the first, first Hollywood, the first uh comedy team, Oliver and Hardy, he died on this day in 1957 in California. Remember Oliver and Hardy?

SPEAKER_03 26:11

I do, I do.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

You know, but my recollection of those guys is um Shaky's Pizza when we were kids, and we had the one on Washington Boulevard, and it's still there to this day. Still there. Still there, still there. But we would go there from time to time as uh as a family, and um and we'd be in there eating pizza, and they had the white uh the red and white gingham uh table covers over the long bench tables, and right they're almost like picnic tables and benches you'd sit on, and and they had a screen up on the wall that showed nothing but Oliver and Hardy shows. Uh, and I just used to love it as a kid. That was great, you know.

SPEAKER_03 26:58

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 26:59

Yeah. Um, okay, okay. All right. Last one, all right. Last one on this day in history, 1969. Photographer Ian McMillan captured the iconic photo that would become the cover of the Beatles Abbey Road. Iconic picture, those four lads walking.

SPEAKER_03 27:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, definitely. I'm not even a Beatles fan, and that's so iconic. I know.

SPEAKER_00 27:28

You're not even a Beatle fan. You spent two hours here sitting in the studio with Mario and I.

SPEAKER_03 27:34

Well, that, you know, you know, shoot full disclosure, that was a history lesson that uh I know for sure. Well, I was one of three. And I could say I was one of three because that was unbelievable.

SPEAKER_00 27:51

Unbelievable. It was. Mario Mario was just, I mean, he's like rattling stuff off like nothing, you know. Mario didn't have one note with him, nothing. He just sat down here. We put his mural up or his his uh his collage up on the on the studio wall and and just went, you know.

SPEAKER_03 28:09

But you taught you taught him about you taught him about uh uh the record where the two brothers uh were uh their names were engraved, right?

SPEAKER_00 28:21

It was it was with uh it was the let it be album, and it was this the smooth band, I can't remember what there's a name for it, around the label, where they inscribe the um the catalog number of that particular recording. And in the inscription there was Phil plus Ronnie, Phil Spectre plus Ronnie Spectre, you know. Yeah, yeah. So I did, yeah, he actually learned something from me on that. Everything else, he was the he was the teacher and we were the students on that one. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. Um, so

80s Trivia With Bean Boozled

SPEAKER_00 28:56

uh okay. I told you during the week, I hope you have your music trivia with you. I do. Oh, okay, good. You're prepared. Because uh, you know, when we do Friday night live, we always gotta have something to try that, you know, to try to get the audience to engage or something. Let me check something really quick. I'm gonna see if we have any comments. Uh no comments right now. Okay, we're good. No one's texted either, so shame on them. No one's texted, no one's called, nobody wants to talk to us. But um, I I told you to get 10 music trivia questions, didn't have to be anything crazy, just from the year of 1983. Why people, that was the year I graduated. Okay, and I told Raul I was gonna get 10 questions for him from the year 1985. That was the year that Raul graduated. We're both cardinals, we're wittier rights, proud cardinals. And so I did. I actually have 20 questions because I wasn't crazy about the first 10, but then I got 10 more, and they were just as easy as the first 10. So it's like, all right, whatever. So here's the deal, Raul. I'm gonna ask you a question. If you get it right, you're safe. If you get it wrong, you gotta eat a bean. Yeah, I I sent Raul a picture. I sent him a picture, I think it was on Monday, and I said, order these now. You can eat them for Friday. He sends me back, done. I'll have them tomorrow.

SPEAKER_03 30:30

So um there's everything's today and tomorrow with Amazon.

SPEAKER_00 30:35

That's right. So they're the bean-boozled beans, as you guys know. And um, yeah, so uh if you get it wrong, you gotta you gotta eat a bean. Actually, what it is, you got you know, obviously you lift that top up and then you drop it down. Whatever comes up, if it's one bean, you eat it. If it's three, you gotta eat them all. And then, you know, we'll see if they're are you were you digging in already? That's disgusting. That was pretty bad. What was it?

SPEAKER_03 31:05

I don't know, but I'm gonna throw up. That was a red one. Jesus Kriminal.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, let me put my glasses on. I don't know what the red one is. Let me see. Uh oh, I think the red one is old bandage or pomegranate.

SPEAKER_03 31:20

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:23

Oh, yeah, I've had that was a freebie. That was a freebie, so I spent it.

SPEAKER_00 31:26

Yeah, thank you. The audience appreciates that. That that old bandage one, oh, that tastes just like taking a band-aid off your off your elbow at 10 years old and just sucking on it.

SPEAKER_03 31:37

It's horrible. Screw up.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

All right. Here's the first one right here, Roll, right out of the gate. Okay. Careless Whisper is often credited to George Michael, but under what duo name was it originally released in the UK? Come on.

SPEAKER_03 32:04

I know this, I know the song, and I know what he did in Beverly Hills restroom.

SPEAKER_02 32:09

Yeah, yeah, that's yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:11

That's about uh I'm gonna have to eat something. No idea.

SPEAKER_00 32:15

Come on, you can you know who those guys are. That they were good-looking guys, it was George Michael and Andrew Ridgely. Their big song, they're big. I mean, their first single uh and video on MTV was enough, folks.

SPEAKER_03 32:30

Listen up, folks. You see how Ben gets all lathered up when he talks about good-looking dudes? It's not that's not my lane. That's why I have no idea what he's talking about.

SPEAKER_02 32:40

Oh, yeah. Uh-huh. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 32:42

All right.

SPEAKER_03 32:42

For the record, it's for the record.

SPEAKER_00 32:44

Yeah, for for for the record. So uh, well, you better eat a bean. The answer was wham.

SPEAKER_03 32:50

Wham. I got it. I got it before you said it.

SPEAKER_00 32:53

All right, all right. I'll I'll let you go. I'll let you slide on that one.

SPEAKER_03 32:56

I got it. I got it. It just came to me.

SPEAKER_00 32:59

All right. So hit me with one. And then uh and same thing applies. This is these are all gonna be from 1983, if I get it wrong. And I got three beans sitting right here on top of the uh on top of this can right now.

SPEAKER_03 33:13

So all right, so at the end of the year at the Billboard 100, which I know you love.

SPEAKER_01 33:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:24

What was the number one song that year for the longest period in time?

SPEAKER_00 33:32

Yeah, yeah. Uh, I could go two ways on it, but I'm gonna go this. I'm gonna go this way because I think this is this is the right, this is the right answer. I know it won, I know it won record of the year uh the following year. Um, I'm gonna go every breath you take, the police.

SPEAKER_03 33:49

You got it.

SPEAKER_00 33:51

All right, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:52

That's it.

SPEAKER_00 33:52

All right, so it I it was gonna be a toss-up between between that song and Billy Jean from Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_03 34:00

That's the sec that's the second one.

SPEAKER_00 34:02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:02

That's number two. All right. There's like a there's like a like a greenish one and a red one.

SPEAKER_00 34:10

Well, well, you don't have to eat one because I got it right.

SPEAKER_03 34:13

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 34:13

No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, you only have to eat if you get it wrong.

SPEAKER_03 34:18

Oh, shoot.

SPEAKER_00 34:19

Look, if we did that, we both might be like passed out after the you know by the end of the episode.

SPEAKER_03 34:25

He's good. He's good.

SPEAKER_00 34:26

I'd have to get across the studio and get the get the waste basket over there, you know. Dang it. These are disgusting. Okay, so uh let me see. One more next next oh yeah, yeah. Okay, next one. Uh let's see. All right, you you you better get this one. We are the world was recorded by a supergroup under what official collective name.

SPEAKER_03 35:02

I know. I remember the song I can I could visibly read seeing everybody singing.

SPEAKER_00 35:09

Yeah, it's a fantastic song. I love that song. Love that song so much. I get like chills every time I hear it. I love that. I just it's it's such a fantastic performance. Ah, USA for Africa. There you go. What are you are you looking that stuff up on your computer?

SPEAKER_03 35:27

Listen, so so I did some studying because you did some studying. I did, I did because I you know, I I don't know this stuff, so I did I did some studying.

SPEAKER_00 35:38

So you started to bone up on it.

SPEAKER_03 35:40

Yeah, I had to. Okay, I know this stuff is gonna be disgusting.

SPEAKER_00 35:46

Well, hey, at least you're willing to participate in Little Bean Boozled for years and years. Everyone else will not do it with me, everyone hates it. I think I think I'll see why now. Well, you but well, it's a punishment, but you gotta get the answers right, and then you're you're good. I'd rather pay money, but there's gotta be some fun behind it, there's gotta be an incentive to get things right, and the incentive is you don't have to eat those ugly beans. But I finally got brother Jim when he was on the drunk show back in March. I finally got him to actually do bean boozled with me.

SPEAKER_03 36:22

So, yeah, yeah, I saw that. Yeah, he wasn't a fan either.

SPEAKER_00 36:27

No, no, I'm oh gosh, absolutely not. Um, all right. So, yeah, you got you got that USA for Africa, right? My and my favorite line in that song is um there's there's a couple of them, but but I just I get chills whenever it breaks into Steve Perry.

SPEAKER_01 36:47

You know, it was he says, uh uh there's a choice we're making, we're saving our own lives.

SPEAKER_00 37:01

Ah, I love that. And then Daryl Hall takes it from there, and uh, so good.

SPEAKER_03 37:05

So so I remember I remember the song vividly. Yeah, but I I don't recall what what prompted them to sing it.

SPEAKER_00 37:14

Uh well remember the year before 1984 in 1984. Um Bob Geldoff, who was the the founder of the Boomtown Rats, and he put together that group Band-Aid, which was all UK musicians, and they did that song, Do They Know It's Christmas? And they were doing it for the famine in Ethiopia. Okay, and and they released it right before they released it in December of '84. It was right before Christmas. So collectively, um Lionel Richie, Quincy Jones, and Michael Jackson, yeah, they came together, they wrote the song. Quincy. Quincy produced it, directed the the directed everyone, and and um it was a it was a quick thing. They had so many, so many of the musicians were in town doing other things at the time, not I mean because they didn't live here, so they're doing other shows or recording or whatever it was it might be. And then of course, you know, the music community in in LA was quite large back in the 80s as well, too. And and they pulled everybody in, they did it all in one night. And um the one thing Quincy Jones said was to everyone um before they even got started, he says, check your egos at the door. And because look, this was going to be Quincy's show, and he wasn't gonna put up with anything from anyone. We're not here for you, we're here for everyone, we're here for the collective, and so yeah. And I just um I I think it's just such a great song, and I love to watch the video on that one. Um just seeing all the different artists coming in, you know, singing their parts. And um, yeah, that like I said, that song just gives me chills. And it raced up the it raced up the chart, and it was at number one for several weeks. Um it got to number one very, very quickly after it was uh after it was released and uh did a lot of good. I want to say it raised, and this is 1985 dollars, it raised like over 50 million dollars for that for the time um for USA for Africa. So it was a great cause. Um that then also inspired Brian Adams to put together a group of Canadian musicians, they called that Northern Lights, and they did a song as well. I may have heard that song one time. Um, so they did the same thing, and then I believe it was late 85 or early 86, the heavy metal community comes together, and that was uh spearheaded by Ronnie James Dio, brought together guys like Rob Halford from Judas Priest and Kevin Dubrow from Quiet Riot, and just I mean, all these all these heavy metal singers and even guitar players, because there was guitar solos in it as well, and that one that project was called uh Hearin Aid, and um uh we're stars. That was the name of the tune. Yeah, so everybody was getting in on that stuff, raising money for a good cause and yeah, good stuff. All right, how do we get there? How did we get there? All right, so you got one for me now.

SPEAKER_04 40:50

All right, yep.

SPEAKER_03 41:07

Yeah, you know what you're gonna get all the one.

SPEAKER_00 41:10

I I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_03 41:14

Electric Avenue.

SPEAKER_00 41:16

Oh, come on. You gotta give me something harder than that. That one's that's like yeah, come on. Don't it's like, don't waste my time. That's Eddie Grant.

SPEAKER_03 41:30

Oh yeah, that's something these are things that we never know.

SPEAKER_00 41:33

Yeah, yeah, that's a good song. I like that song though. I like that song. Yeah, that one came up. That one, uh, I think that one came about like in the spring of 1983. Nobody knew who Eddie Grant won Eddie Grant was, and he was like really old at the time, too.

SPEAKER_03 41:49

I still don't know who Eddie Grant is.

SPEAKER_00 41:52

Eddie Grant, uh, speaking of videos, and actually I want to get to something on videos too, but he had one or two videos on maybe three videos on MTV, but that was his big obviously breakthrough on uh in America and his biggest song as well. But then he was commissioned to write a song and perform a song for um what was that Michael Douglas movie with um Kathleen Turner and I think was Danny DeVito in it too. There was they did two of them. The second one was called Jewel of the Nile. And was it just maybe it was called Romancing the Stone? Was that the name of the movie? I think that was the name of it, but Eddie Grant was yeah, I think that I think that was the name of the movie. Uh Eddie Grant was commissioned to to do a song for the soundtrack, and and it was it was entitled Romancing the Stone, and then they never used it. They never used it, but it but the song did get released, and it it had uh it had some fair airplay and and uh a fair amount of success on the on the Billboard Top 40, but nothing like Electric Avenue.

SPEAKER_03 43:02

So back so back in the day this top 100. Yeah. Did they were they were they ranked based on air time or purchases?

SPEAKER_00 43:14

It was based on sales.

SPEAKER_03 43:15

Sales, okay.

SPEAKER_00 43:16

Yeah, it was based on record sales. Um and and so that's why there, you know, there were charts for everything, and there's still charts for everything. Where like I remember going into levels, and right by the register on the counter in the glass in the glass case next to the register, I would go check it every every time I would go into levels. They would have the Billboard Hot 100 for that week. And I would just like be looking up and down the chart, seeing what what singles were on there, and because it would that's all it was. It was singing the hot 100 are all singles. Um and and it was based on sales. The the the record companies would report. Report their sales, or not record companies, the record stores would report their sales on albums and singles every week to whatever company it was. And maybe they were reporting directly to Billboard, I'm not sure. And so that's how those um that's how that chart was developed. And then, you know, there were other charts like there was the the rhythm and blues chart, the country chart, so uh you know, the dance chart, that kind of stuff. And and so you but but the Billboard Hot 100 was a collective of all that. So that's why you would see on the Hot 100, you'd see a disco song, you'd see a rock song, uh adult contemporary song. That's why you see the combination on that. And and of course, that's what a lot of radio stations were playing, especially in the 70s. The AM stations were playing the the top 40 stuff, and then and then it towards the late 70s, early 80s, that's when it really transitioned to being a uh an 80s thing where we had all these top 40 stations, but that's where they were getting their stuff. And then, of course, MTV, when they broke in '81, they started. I I've got something here we're going to cover on MTV too, but they um they really started to have an influence on the charts because they were playing stuff on their channel that radio stations weren't necessarily they didn't necessarily have in their rotation. And so people hear it more on the radio, they're more apt to go out and buy the single or buy the album or whatever, that kind of stuff. So anyway.

SPEAKER_03 45:38

Right. Uh so how is it done? No one no one really buys music now. How is it? Uh do they even have it now? Like a topic. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:48

The charts are the charts are still out there, but the way they're calculated now is way different. Now they they use different metrics, they still do uh they still have to count a share of sales, but now a lot of it is geared towards streams. And downloads or right, but but because most people just stream it and don't download it, right?

SPEAKER_03 46:14

But right, so that's what I do.

SPEAKER_00 46:16

So let's so let's say like a song make um let's say if someone streams uh an album, whatever the album is, okay. It may take like uh 20 streams, and I don't even know the number, but I know it's I know it's a considerable amount. Let's say it may take 20 streams to equal one album purchase or one song purchase, something like that. So they don't just say, Oh, someone streamed it, okay. Well, that's one that's the same as buying it. No, no, they they have a different formula for figuring that stuff out now. Um, but yeah, I don't know exactly what it is. I know that has a lot to do with it, though.

SPEAKER_03 46:59

So okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:01

Anyway, uh oh, you're up, number three. We won't go through all 10 of them right now. We're gonna jump around a little bit. I I was hoping I was well, I was hoping you would have been eating already, and so I would be cutting you some slack, but so far, so good.

SPEAKER_03 47:18

We're gonna get to that, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_00 47:20

Uh okay, wait. Um, since I have 20 to choose from.

SPEAKER_01 47:31

Um poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop, poop.

SPEAKER_02 47:37

Oh, okay.

Live Aid And Charity Anthems

SPEAKER_00 47:42

What was what was the name of the massive global benefit concert held on July 13th, 1985?

SPEAKER_03 47:53

Say say that again.

SPEAKER_00 47:55

Okay, what was the name of the massive global benefit concert held on July 13th, 1985?

SPEAKER_03 48:05

Was it FarmAid?

SPEAKER_00 48:07

No, you're very close. It's LiveAid.

SPEAKER_03 48:13

I can't even believe I got that close.

SPEAKER_00 48:16

Yeah, now you gotta eat a bean or three or whatever. Um, yeah, that one that one was held. There was two shows on the same day.

SPEAKER_03 48:25

Oh, yeah, only one. Only one.

SPEAKER_00 48:27

Oh, good for you.

SPEAKER_03 48:28

It's it's yellow with red.

SPEAKER_00 48:33

That could be wet dog or top banana. Let's hope it's wet dog.

SPEAKER_03 48:41

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 48:47

Oh pretty bad.

SPEAKER_03 48:52

No, no, that's disgusting.

SPEAKER_00 48:54

It's like you just brought your dog in from the rain and just gave him a big old lick.

SPEAKER_03 48:58

Oh my gosh, we're never playing this game again.

SPEAKER_00 49:01

No, you are.

SPEAKER_03 49:04

This is bad.

SPEAKER_00 49:05

Okay. All right. Hit me with one.

SPEAKER_02 49:14

It's great. I love it.

SPEAKER_03 49:17

Okay, I'm picking these because I don't know them, but I'm sure you're gonna know them, but I don't.

SPEAKER_01 49:22

Alright.

SPEAKER_03 49:24

Who sang far from over?

SPEAKER_00 49:29

That's it? Who sang far from over?

SPEAKER_04 49:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:35

Wow. Wow. You might be eating those three beans right there. Um I know, I I I I I know the song I'm trying to think of the hook of that song. If I can come up with the hook, I'll know I'll know who it is. Uh wow. Far from over. Oh, oh, oh. Um, no, that's before his time. Oof. All right. Well, I'm gonna have to like I'm gonna have to concede it sometime. Let me see here. What do we got? Uh what do we got here? Oh, let's do this one. Yeah. Um, all right. Uh I I'm I'm gonna have to wow, I'm gonna have to throw in the towel on that one.

SPEAKER_03 50:33

Frank's the Lone. Oh, yes!

SPEAKER_00 50:36

I should yes, that's right. That's from the staying alive soundtrack, and that's a really good song, too. And I don't remember it. And I follow Frank on Facebook, we're buddies on Facebook, man.

SPEAKER_03 50:49

You're gonna be disappointed in you.

SPEAKER_00 50:51

I oh, he probably will never come on the podcast now.

SPEAKER_03 50:55

Well, this is all the reason to go on the podcast, actually.

SPEAKER_00 50:58

Yes, see, I knew if I could get to the hook and I couldn't I couldn't get to the hook.

SPEAKER_01 51:02

Save me, darling. I am down, but I am far from over.

SPEAKER_04 51:09

I don't remember that.

SPEAKER_00 51:11

Yeah, all right. There's three okay, I got three beans here. I got a brown one, so that one's gonna be oh, liver and onions or cappuccino. Beautiful. I got the red one so that we know that's pomegranate or uh um old bandage, and then I got a like a beige one.

SPEAKER_03 51:31

Well, I hope that's bars.

SPEAKER_00 51:35

It might be stink bug or toasted marshmallow. I don't know. Let's see. Let's find out. Okay, one at a time. Toasted marshmallow on that one. Yeah. Woo! Oh man, that is I mean, that honestly tastes like I just got it off the fire. That's so good.

SPEAKER_03 51:59

Which one was that one? Toasted marshmallows.

SPEAKER_02 52:02

Yeah, that's so good. All right, uh, the red one.

SPEAKER_03 52:12

Okay. That's gotta be old bandage.

SPEAKER_00 52:19

It doesn't taste terrible, but it doesn't taste like pomegranate.

SPEAKER_04 52:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 52:26

The longer I chew it though, the worse it's getting. Oh wow. Yeah, I think it hits you. It hits you. I got a scab right there.

SPEAKER_03 52:39

That's disgusting.

SPEAKER_00 52:42

Ooh. All right, mm. Okay, the brown one. Uh what do we say? That was like liver and onions or cappuccino. Okay. Who who buys these? You and I?

SPEAKER_04 52:57

Golly.

SPEAKER_02 52:59

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 53:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:06

Oh. I don't ooh. I don't know that I've ever had liver and onions. And I don't eat liver and onions. Oh.

SPEAKER_03 53:15

I think I've eaten it once by accident.

SPEAKER_00 53:20

Oh, okay. That one was that one was bad. That one was just bad. Ooh. Okay, wait, before okay. What I have here, and

How Music Charts Really Work

SPEAKER_00 53:30

this was just by chance. I just I just stumbled upon this um during the week. So I thought, oh, this will be fun for Raul and I. Because when I had um when I had Pam Lewis on a couple weeks back, you know, she was part of the launch of M T V and we talked about we talked about the videos that they had, that they had like no videos at all. So this thing popped up. Um, the first 50 videos played on MTV. So I thought that'd be fun to just cover some of them. But before we do that though, Rawl, Raul, um, all right. So

High School Coolness And Being Shy

SPEAKER_00 54:05

you and I, we both went to the same high school together. Um I graduated two years before you did. Um, we didn't really like we didn't, I mean, we didn't know each other in high school, we didn't hang out in high school. You were best buddies with Javier, and you were too cool. No, trust me. But I'm getting to that. All right.

SPEAKER_03 54:27

Ben had all the chicks. Anyway, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 54:30

Ben didn't have no Ben didn't get all the chicks. Ben wanted to get all the chicks, Ben didn't get all the chicks. Uh so do you think that you were that that you are cooler now or were you cooler in high school?

SPEAKER_03 54:48

Oh no, no. I was uh yeah, you know, I some of my best buddies, I mean to to uh to this day, you know, some of my best friends are are are my high school buddies.

SPEAKER_02 55:04

Of course they are.

SPEAKER_03 55:05

Javier Sanchez, yeah, uh Anthony Ariano, yeah. Um you know, and I remember circling back. Yeah, David Calderon, exactly, exactly. I mean, there's all kinds of guys, right? Yeah, um but I remember circling back uh with Tony Ariano, Anthony Ariano, called Tony, but Anthony. And uh he remembers me being a real somewhat of an introvert, and I I really was not. Yeah, but you know, I I hung around with my best friend at the time named Ray Aronte, and we had our little little section. It wasn't at the quad where all the cool people were.

SPEAKER_00 55:50

Oh no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, we get into that in a minute.

SPEAKER_03 55:55

We we we hung out in a different area, so I really was never a part of you know the quad, as they say.

SPEAKER_00 56:01

Where did you hang out? At like at lunch and at nutrition, where were you hanging out?

SPEAKER_03 56:06

We we you know, we hanged out at the gymtown area, as they called it. Oh, in the in the front of the science building. Yeah, yeah, right there. Where the trees were in that little rolls, that that little bushes were okay.

SPEAKER_00 56:18

Wait, was in the science building the administration building? Because you had Jimtown building. And Sunrise hung out in front of this the the the um this the uh science building.

SPEAKER_03 56:27

Yeah, the other side.

SPEAKER_00 56:31

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 56:34

I I love that.

SPEAKER_03 56:35

Um you know it's so funny though, you know, you know, having said that, all of my best buddies in high school uh were from Sunrise because not a lot of people played football in my neighborhood. There was a handful. Yeah, but you know, and I always talk to Renee and the Jimenez brothers. Some of the best athletes that we had in Weir High School came out of that sunrise area.

SPEAKER_00 56:57

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_03 56:59

Mondo, you know, you got Mondo, yeah. I mean Levon, Barton, they all they all grew up there, and that's right.

SPEAKER_00 57:11

That's right. No, I uh so uh folks in in so okay. Now Raul's being a little modest here, but you know, he was he was uh he was big time, um, especially during his like his junior and senior year. He was big time on the football team and everything. He got a scholarship to University of Missouri, so he's a tiger. Um and that was an athletic scholarship.

SPEAKER_03 57:40

And so, yeah, so don't definitely definitely not the greats for sure. Not an academic.

SPEAKER_00 57:48

Yeah, don't let Raul fool anyone out there. Raul was uh well Raul was big time. Raul is still big time, but it's good to hear you say that you're cooler now than you were in high school.

SPEAKER_03 57:59

Well, I'm I'm I don't know if I'm cooler now, but um it it it may appear that way. Um but yeah, you know, I get I guess I I guess you know uh came out of a shell, if you will.

SPEAKER_02 58:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 58:17

Uh to some degree. Um I was always very vocal on on our football team, but when you know when it came to the general population, it wasn't really like that.

SPEAKER_00 58:27

I hear you there. I hear you. I was very much the same way, you know. Um do you remember there was a teacher? There was a class called Living Skills, and it used to be on across the street, you know. Uh, and it was Mr. He had with Mr. Wiseman, I think he had a full-on beard, um, dark hair, beard, uh, wore glasses. Mr. Wiseman, kind of a short guy. And remember in that class, we took um we took this some kind of exam, whatever you answer so many questions, and it would tell you if you were it would tell you where you were on the scale of being an introvert or an extrovert. And I sat right exactly in the middle. And I always considered myself to be an extrovert, but but then I can see where that was coming from. I didn't understand it back then, but I understand, but I see where it was coming, where you know why it was that I kind of like tested that way, I suppose. Because when I was around my circle of friends, the people that we always hung out with, and we and we hung out on the steps outside the girls' gym, right across from the band room. That's where we hung out, and we made fun of all the socias that were in the quad. We that's all we did, we made fun of all of it.

unknown 59:55

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:57

So so I guess in in in retrospect, uh, because Javier was hanging out with Eddie, we were making fun of them too.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:05

So, you know, but be careful making fun of about Eddie though.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:10

Uh I know, man. That could get sucked you up. That could get your head knocked in back then, that's for sure. Oh man, he was a brawler, but um, but a big teddy bear though. Um but but um yeah, around my circle of friends, I was I don't want to say I was like the leader, but I was one, I was the organizer. I did everything. I'm I'm the one when it came to time to put together like pickup baseball games, football games, or whatever it was. I'm the one that had the phone list, I'm the one that called everybody, I'm the one that put everyone together, I'm the one that made the plans to do this on uh the on the weekend, whatever it was, that kind of thing. So within that that circle, yeah, I was like totally extroverted, but yeah, and like out of my mind, extroverted. But and on the on the ball field playing ball, I was a pretty vocal guy. Um but outside of that, I kind of was in a little bit of a shell, afraid to kind of come out because I didn't want people to like make fun of me, point fingers at me, you know, say negative things, that that kind of stuff. So it was one of those things. I really didn't like completely come out of my shell till I was probably like, I don't know, 20, 21.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:33

Yeah, same here. Same here. Most of my most of my uncles, my aunts, my cousins, they're all introverts. Uh beautiful people over the introverts, and they just laugh at me because they think I'm wild. But I'm really not. I'm just a little more an extrovert than than than them. And uh it's kind of funny. But yeah, my my most of my entire family are introverts.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:56

Well, you're the thing is though, with you, like you're a real people person too. You just go up and talk to anyone and just you know, put your arm around someone and just make them feel like uh you know you've been buddies for a long time. So um, all right. Now, so you're cooler now than you were in high school. That's cool. That's good. That's good.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:17

For me, I there we go. Here we go. For me, there aren't enough.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:21

No, there's no nothing's coming. There aren't enough O's and cool to describe me. I just have that to say. No, I just wanted to touch on that a little bit. Um,

The First MTV Videos

SPEAKER_00 1:02:31

and then and then kind of go over these. Uh I don't know if we'll go over all 50 of these. It's a lot, 50 is a lot, but but you know, when MTV launched in 1981, they didn't have videos for like they had nothing. They had 50 videos to start with, basically. And and they were run, they were cycling these things through like you know, like crazy. But everyone knows the very first video is Video Killed the Radio Star. It's the only song that anyone really anyone knows from the buggles, okay. But the second video was You Better Run by Pat Benatar. That's off of her debut album. I I can't remember what it's called. Um something, uh, not it's not in the heat of the night, but it's something like that. Anyway, uh, it's the one that has Heartbreaker on it and that kind of thing. But see, here's one. Nobody knew that. I mean, She Won't Dance With Me by Rod Stewart. That wasn't even a single for Rod. That was it. So where they came up with the video, it's probably like some kind of promo video that the record company just sent to MTV because I we need something. But then you better you bet from the Who everyone knows that song. That was yeah, that's a great song. And then uh and a band called PhD, Little Susie's on the Up. Now I know that song because the band Tesla covered that song later on in the 80s, like around 87, I think, something like that. And it's a great song. I love this one though. Totally not in MTV's wheelhouse, but they need content. We don't talk anymore from Cliff Richard.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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And I like that doesn't seem to fit.

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No, it doesn't. I especially when you see where within within a year and where they were really evolving, where MTV was going. Um, just some funny stuff. But and Cliff Richard, Cliff Richard's big time. He was, you know, I think the only artist, there's I think there's two artists, maybe three artists in the in the UK that have sold more records than Cliff Richard. And that's the Beatles, Elton John, and I think Elvis Presley.

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Wow.

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That's how big Cliff Richard is. He had he had a he had some good success in the United States in the um 70s and and into the 80s, but by by like 81, 82, he was as far as the United States, he was on his way out.

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So I I got a bone to pick

When Actors Chase Music

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with with that stuff. Okay, here's why. Here's why, here's why.

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All right.

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I remember that guy from uh Baywatch, the main guy.

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Oh, David Hasselhoff.

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David, okay. Yeah, he would go and sing over there and just blow it up. But no one, I shouldn't say no one, but it was virtually non-existent here.

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Oh, they would make fun of him here in the United States.

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So what is so what does that really say about I'm not trying to take away his credit or nothing like that. I'm just I'm just saying. You know, I mean, do they have uh uh uh a uh a lower standard? I'm not trying to be mean. I'm not trying to be mean, but I'm just saying.

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I don't I don't think it's a lower standard, I think it was a more more of um more of an open mind to to actors or celebrities um you know going out and doing other things like putting together a band being musicians and that kind of thing look rick springfield kind of suffered some of the same thing early on um you know he had a whole career going in the in the mid to late 70s and uh i mean he had he was music uh releasing music in uh in australia the music was being released here in the united states but it wasn't really gaining any traction and then he got into acting and where does he end up in 8081 he ends up on general hospital big daytime soap opera so now all the girls see him they see magnet i just remember him being a pick magnet there you go so now but he's still a musician he's he was a musician before and he was a musician afterward but in America people were seeing him as this soap opera star this good looking soap opera star there I go again talking about how good looking guys are um but but they see this soap opera star and where the girls are gonna buy the crap out of anything Rick Springfield the guys are like eh yeah whatever you know he's didn't that song don't talk to strangers was that his song yep yeah that that was on the follow-up to working class dog and that song would have gone number one um and I'm oh wow now you kind of got me here I can't remember what held that one out of the number one position um but you know him being a pretty good singer though I guess that's what I'm getting at he puts on a wonderful show I haven't I mean I haven't seen Rick in in years it's probably been a good 15 years since I've seen Rick Springfield live but but he always put on a really good show always high energy um and and you know for the for the casual person they see Rick Springfield as a teen idol they they see him almost as a one hit wonder or you know on the cover of 17 and teen magazine and that kind of stuff and all I think is Jesse's girl and where Jesse's Jesse's girl is his only number one single Don't Talk to Strangers Went to Number Two the follow-up album to uh Success hasn't spoiled me yet was Living in Oz and that was in 83 and he had like three he had he had um the first the first single was Affair of the Heart real good hard rocking song the the next song was Human Touch another good song and I think the third single was the title track no might have been Souls I think living in Oz might not have been a single released I don't remember it might have been Souls was the third single but you know good stuff and I I I think that the third the third album from or that that third album I guess it's not his third but uh since he really got traction um I think that one's one of his hardest rocking albums is is living in Oz and when you listen to and I'm a listener I'm a listener of the lyrics I love lyrics you could see where it was going from Jesse's girl to don't talk to strangers to affair of the heart and all those songs that he was writing on Living in Oz he was changing as a songwriter and his songwriting was was really really good phrasing words he was using it was just it was incredible and he'll he'll never get credit for that kind of stuff but you know whatever I mean hey the guy's you know 75 76 years old right now and who he's he doesn't need anyone else's approval right you know he's doing just fine but yeah so um well since we're on since we're on movie on Rick Springfield I don't know but like movie stars because because I asked about uh David House David Hassle I keep looking hoffer um you know I was just recently listening to uh Jack Black okay yeah that guy could sing yeah yeah he's actually really talented I'm trying to remember his partner's name and and and and uh Tenacious D that's their act yeah Tenacious D exactly yeah they actually pretty impressive guy yeah yeah yeah yeah he's he's kind of yeah he's kind of funny yeah but well he's very funny but he doesn't uh in a different way because he's so much more known for the acting over the music um and a lot of people don't even realize that he does have a music act or a life outside of acting um but um but yeah and it well let me see who else okay john schneider uh uh uh uh bo bo bo duke and and tom wopat luke duke both those guys have music careers outside of of uh duke's a hazard and uh tom wopat didn't really have any success on the top 40 chart but both are and both were in the country world yeah uh and still actually but John Schneider had a top 40 hit with the cover of Elvis Presley's um um it's now or never which is oh solo mio it's now or never you know so uh yeah I think he reached uh definitely top 15 I want to say it was like 13 or 14 in 1981 yeah it's a good version of that song too I really like it I really really like it a lot um so yeah there's a lot of actors that have done that even Don Johnson took a swing at it too uh after his Miami Vice days but well I don't even think it was really after the Miami Vice days I think that Miami Vice was the vehicle he was using today yeah trying to get on the ride on the wave ride the wave exactly exactly but but uh um Bruce um gosh why am I why am I blanking on his last name um uh diehard diehard um Bruce Willis Bruce Willis Bruce Willis did have a music career before he got into acting his band was called Bruno and the heaters and when I think it was when he was doing that show with Sylvia Shepherd um that was a sitcom you it was an hour long but it was kind of yeah it was kind of a dramedy type thing um I can't god what was the name of that show shoot I can't recall but it was right during that period maybe right around the beginning no I think it was before diehard because I think diehard was around 87 88 um he did he he he released stuff that actually uh got radio airplay but it was stuff that was recorded earlier in like five years prior to that in the 80s um respect yourself that was the that was the single respect yourself and it was kind of a kind of a bluesy maybe a little bit of RMB motown type thing that he had going on he had women backup singers and that kind of stuff yeah yeah just funny you bring that up because that you know I was gonna I was gonna ask you about that about about the blues brothers oh in terms in terms of their comedians actors and artists and they did have success on the Billboard Top 40 um with they they did the the the cover version of Spencer Davis's Gimme Some Lovin' and they had another one who's I think it was before I think it was after gimme some lovin' who's making love to your old lady while you wait wait who's making love to your old lady when you're out wait when you're out when you're out making love for something yeah something like that yeah yeah yeah that was a good one too yeah but there you go actors that you know had some had some success uh in music yeah if you had to say who's the most successful one that that that did both like acting and scene I know it's not elvis presley for dang sure his I was gonna I was gonna say Elvis probably one his his his his movies were horrible the movies were corny he did like like one or two that were actually good but they were yeah they were they were corny and he hated doing them and he hated singing the goofy songs that they wrote for him to sing but you know that was the Colonel's influence over him too I mean the colonel had him by the by the early ones I don't know he just you know and and for for all of Elvis and his his big personality and um his his stature in culture and in music and then in the movies he just he never stood up to the colonel never stood up to the colonel I don't know but um okay so we'll take Elvis out of the equation then because I I do think it was probably Elvis because he because he had so much success as a musician and he did even though there were dumb movies he did have a lot of success success doing that uh wow um we mentioned quite a few and they had they had some success in that in the ones that we mentioned I I I would probably have to say Rick Springfield how about Whitney Houston um well obviously whitney had tremendous success as as as an artist singer you know but but really she only acted in what a couple three movies yeah the bodyguard yeah and that was that was like later down the line too um and you know what's funny is I've never seen the bodyguard really I've never seen that movie pretty good movie that's what I hear I hear it's good and of course you know even Dolly says besides thank you and you know you you put a lot of money in my bank account you know but Dolly says that um and I will always love you is Whitney song you know even Dolly says that so um I mean there's no there's no denying the the the the job that she did on that song taking that song over and did it and doing that cover the cover of that song that she did and just I mean I I don't what else do you say besides she made it her own I mean it's it's just absolutely phenomenal her her her vocal delivery on that was just out of sight just out of sight. And she you know before she had her troubles you know uh man she was just such a performer and such a great singer and a great talent and I think uh I think uh that's what Clive Davis saw in her whenever he signed her and he just really like he just he loved her loved her but uh yeah um uh yeah I don't know I I I think I do I probably have to say uh Rick Springfield okay I don't know so but oh whatever I don't know I don't know um all right okay wait wait wait wait hang on uh I'm gonna hit you with oh okay I'm gonna hit you with this one yeah prepare to eat a bean this one is not hard at all but prepare to eat a bean okay who won the Grammy award for album of the year in 1985 for Can's Slow Down I love this artist can't slow down I don't even remember that song well the song that was the that was the title of the album okay that was the title of the album can't slow down i'll give I'll give you a clue it was this particular artist's second solo album so this this artist came from a very successful uh group prior to that I'm gonna say this only because he's your top guy from journey no no that's my only guess no you you better eat whatever comes out of that container there dude come on let's go the answer is the answer is Lionel Richie If I'd have said oh nah then I would have got it this was a this was a white one oh probably spoiled milk maybe oh no wait oh no that's probably gonna be like stink bug or toasted marshmallow that's what it looks like anyway not bad this one's okay it's okay all right cool um so before before you ask well no ask me the question first and then uh and then we're gonna get back to something that we were talking about earlier too see I got I got notes here and everything I was making all during the week oh yeah Ro wanted to know about this and talk about okay all right I can't believe I missed that Frank Stallone I'm sorry Frank I'm sorry I am so sorry Frank you're gonna get okay all right all right only because I don't know who this person is how am I supposed to live without you tell me how am I supposed to live without I remember the song but I couldn't I don't remember that okay before I give you the answer the writer of that song is Michael Bolton okay oh wow yeah and the uh and and and her his version who he sang that song as well he recorded it years later but that's Laura Branigan sucker yeah um have no idea who she is yeah well I like the song it it is it's a good song Laura had some really good uh uh top 40 success she had a few she she had a good run there in the early solitaire apparently I don't know that song solitaire well solitaire yeah that was the follow-up to uh Gloria I think that was she oh she's that singer Gloria yeah yeah yeah yeah she had a pretty good run then because I remember that song yeah she did she had a good run yeah sadly she passed away like 20 years ago breast cancer I think it was but uh yeah no she had a good run she had a really good run good voice um yeah but Michael I got one year I know you're not gonna get that getting way give it to me Holmes all right in the top fifty this song was called too shy call in the top fifty yeah that's what he said well that's that's Kaja Google who in the hell are they the the lead that was their one and only song the lead singer lam Lamal I think was his name he left the group like pretty much after they released that album went solo he did uh he sang the title the title song to that movie never ending story in like 1984 1985 something like that in the hell do you know this stuff I don't know because I'm I'm just I'm a geek but he didn't he didn't do much after that but uh he had hair like he had like a peacock haircut like but um uh I was gonna say I was gonna I was talking about Michael Bolton for a minute yeah you know Michael Bolton was in a in a hard rock band in the late 70s called um blackjack with Bruce Kulik who was a guitar what one of the guitarists in KISS in the from like 84 to 96 and did some really good stuff with with KISS but they were in that group together they didn't really get going they didn't get much going and then Michael went on a solo he went went solo and his debut solo album was released in 1983 and it's a rocker it's I mean it's not like hard driving or it's not close to heavy metal but it's very melodic hard rock and then that didn't do anything and it's got fantastic material on it didn't do anything at all really he had one or two videos that were released to MTV but um then in 1985 I think it was four or five or released another album didn't really get anywhere then about 87 flipped the script and went total adult comp uh contemporary and number ones millions millions and millions of albums sold sold out shows everywhere women swooning all over him all that kind of stuff he just became this just big crooner and uh with a big powerful voice so yeah I don't know I went to go see Michael Bolton once uh Kenny G opened the show it was in 1984 yeah and another great one yeah Kenny G was great his band was fantastic um and then Michael came out and I was like dying come on got to do one at least one song from the debut album come on come on no rockers at all I was like you gotta be I was so disappointed so disappointed uh but yeah you know whatever um so tell me uh before because I want to get into some more content regarding your podcast which for everybody out there is hard hats and humor but before we get into what the content is going to consist of um tell me how being a college uh collegiate athlete was tell me how that was what what was that experience like wow that that was uh it was great and uh and torture all at the same time you know I was talking to I was talking to a a colleague of mine today and he said come on how rough was it you got a free education you know blah blah blah blah blah listen to me there's nothing free we had to wake up at five in the morning you know go either get rehab or or work out and then and then and then after that go to school after that go get therapy watch film and then go to practice then try to eat in between there and then because you know we needed the help we would always have to go to a tutor class right um that was kind of a mandatory thing uh because you have to needed to be eligible and uh and and and back then you know now you you couldn't work there was no N I L Oh yeah um and it it wasn't as easy as people might think it is or was but but I'll tell you what it taught me a lot of lifelong lessons that I hold true

College Football Reality Check

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and dear and true to to to today. And that's uh uh just waking up and having a positive attitude and giving it your best effort and leave all the complaining for someone else um keep your head down work hard uh expect great results plan for great results uh but have a but have a plan in a process in in in in in in whether it's on it should be on paper I believe um but yeah it it helped it helped mold me become to become a better man uh better leader uh a better a a better husband a better father and and now and now a gr uh a better grandfather because of all of those you know uh you know having said that I think I've I've I've also I think I've become that that that angry old man get off my lawn kind of a thing. Oh come on of course yeah yeah yeah and then my my wife just looks at me and shakes her head come on come on you know because my I want my I want my you know I I I I've always had a a high standard not only for myself but for my kids and my grandkids and I won't lower it.

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Yeah I just I just won't and uh that can be challenging at times um because um because of my upbringing and my my athletic background my delivery can be a little rough at times um but what I've learned uh in terms of my delivery is uh CDA correction direction and affection so when I have those type of discussions I leave with the corrective like what do I expect or what went wrong and why it went wrong right the direction well this is how it it should be and this is why and then the in fact then the affection part uh where I tell my my not now my grandkids man bro I I love you uh that's why I and I think you're gonna be phenomenal and that's why we're having this discussion because you're amazing and you're gonna achieve great things so you put those three components together and and it and it it and it lends itself to uh having a better not only a better discussion but a better outcome now having said that here's how I grew up shut up sit up and do this that's it that was it yeah and and it was like the military copy that no questions no explanation no nothing it was it was just nothing it was just listen this is how it's gonna be done and and we said okay okay so that that's how that's how that I think that's how my my my uh my athletic background has has helped me well I I think um see I didn't have that discipline growing up uh from from my parents but I I started to learn that discipline from coach Nario playing baseball coach playing baseball and you know you had to work hard to to achieve things that the to to achieve success that you're looking for you you got to work hard you just can't roll out of the rack and it happens and um one one thing that I found a little bit later but I was a little bit older at the time but you know if you can have if you can be successful on the ball field whatever sport it is baseball football soccer basketball so that'd be the court or hot if you can be successful on your field of play you can be successful in life and because there's a lot of the same discipline that that goes into sports that that also you apply to your life in in in the real world and into working holding down a job um whatever that is you have to have that same discipline and um so I I just I've lived by that and did did you ever have you ever coached sports at all yeah I coach I coached high school football uh a short period for my high school coach coach seller yeah and uh and then I I I I coached my son in every sport that he was involved in and and here's why because unfortunately unlike you and your and your fellow brother because I I I saw the podcast about how you guys ran your baseball team team that's a that that's that's a you're that's not normal man you know that that's not normal you get these you get these fathers who are weekend warriors and they're just horrible they're horrible and I never wanted my son to be a part of that so I was yeah always involved in my son's coaching always up until high school and then then you know then you gotta let the yeah but up until then no I was absolutely absolutely and and it's so funny is that the older my son got my coaching style changed uh from being a disciplinarian dictator type of coach which which that's how I was coached yeah um to a more positive teaching uh thoughts are our words of encouragement as opposed to this is what you did wrong right listen we wake up we wake up every day wake up every day and we know life's gonna slap us in the face everyone's gonna not shouldn't say everyone but life's gonna you know say hey you're not good enough you didn't do this right you didn't do that right um well I started to I started to think about that and I said well what if we walk what if I woke up every day and I told my son or our people that I'm leading how good they are how great they're doing right how how how how they're uh such an important part of the entire team and and they're the reason why we are achieving the results we're achieving.

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Now

Coaching Style And Leading People

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sure do we have things we need to work on? Absolutely we all do we all do but but if you lead with that and it's just been my experience if you know if I lead with that that's that that's that's the way it's always been done and I just found it not to be very fruitful very uh and you know and and not to put not to pat myself on the back but you know coming up through the ranks you know I my team still have records in in companies that have not been broken and and it wasn't because of me it was because of the teams that I was able to uh uh be a part of yeah uh you know feed into learn from and uh and and and and and build some very successful uh outcomes because of them because of them so how what kind of content um can listeners and viewers of your new podcast come to expect on uh hard hats and humor obviously there's that back end there humor so we know we're gonna get some giggle so just what kind of what kind of content you gonna deliver there so you know it's gonna it you know it's not just gonna be about hard hats and humor I mean the bulk of it is and I I say the bulk because I I've been able to uh to speak with you know high ranking union leaders uh uh uh and I reached out to them and we've had some conversations and yeah let's do this and you know let's let's talk about you know how we can move uh the trades forward uh how can we we can move uh the the message of of making a whole heck of a lot of money in the trades yeah you know I mean I listen I went to college um but I also know that college isn't for everyone and that's not me saying it that's just you know it might not be for everyone that's just life yeah and if it's not I'm telling you Ben like there's one school down here in Southern California that just got their hands slapped for putting

What Hard Hats And Humor Covers

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forth degrees that that that these children and their parents had to pay I don't know $200 $300,000 and when they graduate they're not making any more money than the person working at McDonald's and that's a fact that I didn't make this up that's a fact and they said you're not doing that anymore it doesn't make sense so all to say this uh I've been able to watch and learn how trades people professionals can move up the rank make a couple hundred thousand dollars man you know I'm not telling you anything you don't know yeah make a make a great living now do they have to work hard absolutely well you're gonna earn you're gonna earn every time yeah but I'll tell you what I'll tell you what a great tradesperson will always have a job they folks they build America I'm not that's not an exaggeration that's the truth they build America one job site at a time they're the backbone of you know all these big buildings we see in these big stadiums who the heck do you think built them who built it wasn't a robot it wasn't ai and it's never gonna be AI it's not yeah yeah and and that's the other that's the other gem about it that you know ai can only do so much and and and is she coming and is she gonna be mean absolutely she is so you know we need to prepare ourselves however there's there's things in the trades that there's no way there's no way so yeah so we're gonna be talking about that yeah uh I'm also I'm also be talking with coaches I've got some coaches lined up um some um some coaches that not just coach sports but they they coach neuroscience okay and if you know anything about neuroscience folks it's the study of your brain how it works uh how to master it and and I studied that for for quite some time now so and that's why I reached out to some of these some of these individuals and uh they're gonna be on board and a lot and and and to your point a lot of it's gonna be com uh you know comedy as to what the heck we see on the job site you know you kind of just shake your head say come on man come on but it happens every single day I'll tell you what um it's it's humorous to some degree and and sometimes you know you scratch your head and say gosh come on man yeah you know because at the end of the day at the end of the day in my profession our our our our primary goal is to make sure you go home get home yeah get home in the same in the same condition you came to work in with all your five fingers your two eyes everything and I know people say oh come on don't exaggerate that's I'm an exaggeration folks no no no it's not if you if you've been on a job site or if you're in the trades you know exactly what I'm talking about.

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Yeah it's it you know can they make some great money can we make great money absolutely uh is it hazardous absolutely it is so we try to mitigate that obviously and uh and make sure everybody goes home safe and knock on wood thank thank god that uh I've had some injuries on my job sites but uh never a fatality and that being said folks um didn't I don't know if you know this but three construction workers die every day in America three wow every day every day three of them die and folks uh I say men but there's obviously women in the traits too but it's predominantly men right uh those men are not gonna walk their daughters down the aisle they're not gonna be able to see the graduation of their loved ones it's it's it's it's it's final so so although it's it we you know we talk we we I kind of put a spin on it being humorous but it's very serious it's very serious so we want to shed a light on on multiple things like for example you know uh you've agreed to to to come on my podcast because I want to I want to I want to recognize what you're doing what Larry's doing um so it's gonna be a uh you know somewhat of a hosh posh of of a lot of things but here's here's the commonality brilliant successful people sharing their story that's that's you don't want me on your podcast here we go here we go with this guy see I know I know folks I know Ben's story okay so I know how successful he is sorry he plays games but I I know okay I know so so that's that's that's gonna be the the the the common fiber okay in in in everybody uh and all my guests that that we're gonna talk that we're gonna be having on on on the show if you will they're just they're just awesome beings yeah yeah yeah so in a way it's gonna be there's obviously there's gonna be an educational aspect behind it there's gonna be a safety aspect behind it there's gonna be a storytelling aspect behind it and then if you get some giggles in there then all the better right well we're gonna laugh yeah we're gonna laugh for sure yeah I I can't I can't go through life without laughing even if mostly it's I'm laughing at myself but either way still laughing right absolutely yeah so I'm excited about all the people you and I are laughing all the time yeah yeah life's too hard not to yeah yeah so we just uh absolutely so yeah so I'm excited about all the all the wonderful people who have agreed to you know to come on the podcast yeah do you have a do you have a target date for the uh launch yes uh I'm gonna say tentatively tentatively uh mid-August and uh I say mid-August only because you only have one week oh yeah yeah let me back let me back that up that up you're right it was mid-August I should say it was mid-August okay and and and I know Ben doesn't think I work but unfortunately work's been getting the best of me uh I normally I normally I normally put off two to three shorts a day yeah and that has kind of dried up a little bit right now it has I was gonna I was gonna comment on that because I haven't seen the content but that's uh yeah I hear you work gets in the way of all this uh this goodness that we do yeah I'm I'm on a job site right now that's gonna be the largest uh rebar manufacturing plant in California this this place is huge wow huge and and and it's very dynamic it's ever so changing yeah forget about it's 105 degrees at 9 a.m um you know it so you know we got we got heat illness to worry about we yeah we got there's so many things so it's taking up a lot of my time right now so what I'm gonna try to do and oh and by the way here's the great news too it's six days a week right now um but this I'm not complaining not complaining uh it's just part it's part of the program at times so but but I'm gonna I'm gonna get back on the shtick as they say uh you know now that I got I I think by next week I'll have my my my bearings and my feet under me and uh there'll be some more uh shorts coming your way folks there we go there we go yeah yeah uh if you guys didn't catch it it's hard hats and humor okay the YouTube channel's already there all right we're just waiting for the full episodes to launch rubble's got a whole series of uh of shorts right now and as he just explained uh it's kind of been lacking

Launch Plans And Job Site Life

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the last week to 10 days but I get it I totally understand that because you know there there are times when I I can't even I don't even have the energy to muster up an episode you know from one week to the next uh because of work at times but um but that's good I'm glad you're getting you're you know you you got it coming it's coming in August uh coming this month so so that's good everybody be on the lookout for that and um uh I I can't wait and I can't wait for you to get some more shorts out because peek behind the curtain people Raul sends the shorts over to Larry and I and he wants our thumbs up or thumbs down yeah you're you're you're you're publishes you're the barometer I said I mean if you if you can chuckle about it then I said all right this this is this is post worthy so we're like oh yeah no give it a give give give it a go yeah they just just like the comedians do right they go to these these off off off beat places and they go try their new materials see if it's gonna work before so you're you're you're that audience yeah we are we're that audience just a couple of knuckleheads three knuckleheads all right wait all right look let's wrap it up here so here's so here's oh there it is oh yeah no that's a beauty right there that's a beauty that's that's my logo yeah uh don't be that guy don't yeah don't don't be that guy and and here and here's here's the best saying that I hear all the time which is the scariest thing oh no watch this oh my god listen folks if you're on a job site and someone says watch this or I've been doing this 30 years get in your buggy and get the hell out of there because something not going to be well yeah I remember you sent me uh you sent me a photo you're like what's wrong with this picture and it was a guy standing on the railing of a scissor lift leaning over look like uh uh on some framing on like a rooftop there he's on the he was on the top rail and everybody knows you don't necessarily you don't ever stand on the mid rail but forget about the top rail I think they're all top you yeah I know you stand on the top rail of the scissor lift you know I was like oh come on dude I was like well let's see what's wrong with this yeah guys about ready to take a header that's what well no fall protection either folks that's that's even better yeah see that would yeah and that would be you sit standing back you know with your arms folded looking at the guy next to you like watch this oh no that's that's that's one of these that's one of these you look at them and you do this yeah get down get down that was something else but yeah in the life I can't wait it's gonna it's gonna be good stuff um there was a lot there was a lot of content I left on the table but we had some great conversation too so um okay here we go last um last question all right so find one for me too okay all right remember it's all 1985 phollins had a huge year in 1985 he performed at both live aid venues on the same day what mode of transportation made this possible helicopter well let me explain you you're gonna take that answer back okay one this was on two different continents one uh there was there was one stage at Wembley Stadium in London and then there was another stage at RFK Stadium in Philadelphia they were playing uh now they weren't all exactly playing at the same time but they were playing on the same day and Phil Collins was the only musician to play at both shows on the same day and and what did he utilize yeah how did how did he make that happen think back because this is 1985

Phil Collins Concorde Stumper

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I don't think I have a let's see do I have a sound effect for a well shoot I mean just based on geography um I would think it's had to have been some type of plane or jet but that seems too obvious or maybe it's not so obvious I have no idea a submarine okay it definitely was a s wasn't a submarine but so so get your beans prepared you you you were on the right track he took the Concord remember the Concorde could fly across the Atlantic in like two and a half hours or something like that this is sucker I got three of them ah yes all right here's uh here's like a like a Oh, that's that's gonna be booger or juicy pear. Okay, alright.

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Damn.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:17

Too bad it wasn't booger.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:19

Here's a red one.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:21

Oh yeah. That ugly bandage on there.

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Oh horrible. I gotta see if this will help. Like a god. Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:45

See if it's a palate cleanser.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:49

Oh that that is boo. That's the worst one. That's the worst one.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:55

That might have been sink bug.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:57

I think it's bluegill. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:00

Nice, nice.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:09

I love it.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:10

So now that so now that we have a little break. I want you to share one of your savage. Marketing. Yes, yes, just one of them. Just one of them. Oh you gotta go.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:32

You gotta get one of those. You gotta get them over. I got them over here across the studio. Hold on. You're such a nut.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:41

I can't believe you said that. We gotta get them on the books, that's why.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:47

I thought you were gonna ask uh I I got stuff scattered all over here. I thought you were gonna ask me about Talison.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:55

I don't even know what the heck that is.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:58

That's what you told me during the week. You're like, I want to know about Talison.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:04

No, because I think you did a great job. So let's give us a little bit of airtime to entice them, as they say, Ben.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:12

Let's see, where did it go? Oh, I do.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:19

I Ben, did you ever have a girlfriend you took to skate land in Whittier? I know you did. Of course you did.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:25

No, no, I I didn't I didn't have a girlfriend that I took to skate land. Um, but remember when they had the overnight skates where you'd stay all night and uh by people bring their sleeping bags and sleep on the floor and stuff. I um there was there was one one night that I went and where did it go? There it is. I like this one, I like them all. Um and before that before because it would end at like six o'clock in the morning, and that's when they throw everybody out, and parents would come pick up their kids. And I remember making out with a girl named Adele. And um, it's funny because when Catherine and I started dating, you know, she used to go to Skateland too, and she said, I only ever made out with one guy at Skateland, and he was a white guy with blonde hair. I'm like, so she was thinking it was me, and I'm like, Well, unfortunately, if if your name wasn't Adele back then, and you know, between eighth and ninth grade, no cigar, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:33

So that's funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:36

Yeah, I I used to love to go to Skateland. Okay, all right. So the point of this, and Raul's trying to trying to put one over on me here. Uh what what what I did, people, is last Sunday I spent some time here in the studio. Um, previous guest Pam Lewis asked me if I would put together a couple of things and send over to her that her team could use promoting her um appearance on on the podcast. So I did that. Books as well, right? And and then she, you're right, and she wanted me to pitch her two uh books on Ben Franklin. So I did that as well, and I sent them over. And then I thought to myself, well, you know what? I am trying to really get some sponsorship for this podcast here. So I just was goofing around and I I got some some little I guess we we would call them live reads because I would read them during the um

Savage Rabbit Sponsor Read Fun

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during the episode. But okay, so it starts with it says this episode of the Ben Maynard program. Well, I would not even include that. I it would just break into the middle of content, and I would do something like if the founding fathers had a bottle of uh sorry, sorry, start again, start again, take two. Now I'm all nervous. If the founding fathers had a bottle like this, history might have sounded a little different. Aged long and crafted with intention, Savage Rabbit, extra a niejo delivers bold notes of oak, rich caramel, and a finish smooth enough to spark a revolution. This is the kind of pour you raise when making moves, making noise, or making your own rules. If you're not watching or listening to the Ben Maynard program with a glass of Savage Rabbit in hand, consider it your declaration to fix that. Savage Rabbit Extra Anyho Tequila. Independence never tasted so good. Please drink responsibly.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:46

So folks, here's here's one of the one of the reasons why I asked Ben that question. Number one is I think he did a great job. I really do. Um number two, um there's another there there's there's another uh company that Ben has his eye on. So we want to make sure that that uh I think it's called Rifle Coffee.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:12

Black Rifle.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:13

Black Rifle, okay.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:16

I'll have to say this, folks. Listen, you companies that are out there, you better get in while the price is low. This is like a stock, okay? You get in while it's low, and and when you know, we're really low right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:31

Okay, I'm a penny, I'm a penny stock.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:33

Yeah, we're not we're not free, or Ben's not free. I should oh, I say we because I'm his marketing director.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:38

No, no, no, no. No, it's it's a we.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:40

It's a we but folks get a hold of Ben, get in, get in now, because uh what you could get for pennies on the dollar from a year from now it's gonna be uh Tesla stock, and I don't want anybody getting pissed off or anything. That just just just an example, okay, folks. In terms of you know, get in now, folks, or you're gonna miss out and you're gonna pay a heck of a lot more money. All right.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:08

So this right here, people, this is the humor side of hard hats and humor. Oh, Raul, it's hard hats and humor, the YouTube channel, the TikTok, uh uh Instagram, Facebook, Instagram, Facebook. It's all the same thing. It's all under hard hats and humor. All right. Raul's got the shorts out there, he's got his his his his his videos, and he's gonna be hitting you all with full episodes coming uh at the end of the month. So just be prepared for that. It's gonna be good stuff. Look, you hear Raul here. You've he's been on this on this program a couple times now, and uh yeah, he's worth it. This is why this is why people want him on their podcasts. This is why he's he's getting lined up, he's getting more bookings than than Larry and I. So uh speaking about getting in on the ground level, you all better get in now while Raul still has time for you.

SPEAKER_03 1:58:15

No, someone's gonna have time for everyone, trust me.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:18

Pretty soon, pretty soon Raul's not gonna have time to be on your little old podcast anymore. So anyway. Uh uh, why don't we just let everybody go now, Raul? Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_03 1:58:31

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:31

Sound good?

SPEAKER_03 1:58:32

Yes, sir. All right, well, thank you so much. Thank you so much, man. Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:36

Come on, dude. This is great, and and this is exactly what what uh it was, you know, what it's supposed to be about, you know, coming on, talking stories and and pitching what you got going on. So, but we want people to know who you are as well. I know who you are, you know, but we're not gonna talk about that here. I just want you to tell people who you want them to think you are. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:59:04

Be careful

Wrap Up And Final Plugs

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with that.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:07

Yeah. All right. Um, well, listen, people, as you know, this program is available wherever you get your podcasts. And just like now, it's on YouTube. So just search the Ben Maynard program. Uh, let me get that again. Wow. Oof. Just search the Ben Maynard program and subscribe. Uh, last but not least, follow me on Instagram. It's simply one word, Ben Maynard program, or on the TikTok at the Ben Maynard program. Raul has been a ton of fun.

SPEAKER_03 1:59:42

Don't buy these either, folks. Yeah, no, buy these.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:45

Buy these, just buy these and play games with your family and friends. Um, so we will see you next time. All right. So hang in there, everyone. Be cool. Um, yeah, I'll see you guys. I don't know. I got stuff going on next week. I'm gonna try to get out. I may have to do another live stream, but you guys stay posted on the socials for all that stuff. All right. This is the Ben Maynard program. Tell a friend.